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Unread 03-17-2007, 01:30 PM   #1
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Questions regarding the new 2.0 liter

My wife and I looked at a Compass sport last night. We like them but one of the most important things to us in this vehicle is fuel economy. Anyone know much about the 2.0 engine that's supposed to be available?

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Unread 03-17-2007, 02:00 PM   #2
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What do you want to know about it? The 2.0L is only available in 2wd and with a CVT. I'm not sure of the Jeep versions of the 2.0L, but the Caliber version does not get the Autostick feature. Personally, I have a 2.4L in my Caliber (dealership didn't have any patriots or compasses I liked) and I can get 30 MPGs out of it easily with the CVT. I've heard from Caliber guys that the mileage is close to the same with both engines if you drive them in a like manner. The 2.4L has a little more oomph available of course. If you want a stick, the 2.4L is the way to go. I personally think you will enjoy the extra power of the 2.4L. Good luck!
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From what I've seen by looking at the experiences of Compass owners with the 2.4 and Caliber owners with the 2.0, it looks as though there is only one situation where the difference in fuel economy is substantial: the EPA's fuel economy test. In the real world, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference.

In my opinion, powertrains can be designed to do well in the EPA test - with little or no benefit in mileage when applied to how people actually drive their vehicles. For example, hybrid vehicles never seem to achieve the stratospheric EPA ratings that are advertised. However, none of us consistently run our vehicles in a lab, with precisely set temperatures and driving cycles.

Don't get me wrong - for comparison purposes, the EPA ratings are the best thing we have...and when looking at differences of 7 to 10 mpg, I personally feel they're meaningful. But then you're looking at differences of less than 3 to 5 mpg, it's difficult to use this as the "acid test" of whether one vehicle will actually use more or less fuel than another.
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My wife and I looked at a Compass sport last night. We like them but one of the most important things to us in this vehicle is fuel economy. Anyone know much about the 2.0 engine that's supposed to be available?

You don't say where in Oregon you live. If you go over the Coast Range, Cascades or down south in the Sisq's you'll want the little bit of extra power with the 2.4. If you're just cruisin' the Willamette Valley or along the Columbia the 2.0 would probably be fine.

You'll need to talk to a dealer about availability and a delivery date for the 2.0. It looks like a delete option as far as I can tell, that puts it as a special order and they are some what behind on orders as is. Now with the Patriot being built, it could take a while.

The 2.4 with the 5 speed gets just about the same as the 2.0 with a CVT, I believe. The 2.4 with a CVT is so close behind that, depending on your driving habits/terrain, you could do better than you think. Generally, most of us seem to be getting between 25 -30 depending on temperature, terrain and the stop and go stuff.

Hope this helps!

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Thanks! I live on the coast and travel often over on I5 through the passes. We're going to get a 5 speed 2.4 I think. Thanks again!
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Thanks! I live on the coast and travel often over on I5 through the passes. We're going to get a 5 speed 2.4 I think. Thanks again!

Good choice! I think on the flat terrain the CVT is pretty close to the 5 speed for gas mileage but on the hills the 5 speed will come out ahead. Are you going with 4X4? Just the FWD would also give you a little more mpg and you still get the ESP, ARM and 4 wheel disc brakes.

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