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Unread 11-13-2006, 06:09 PM   #31
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Saw a compass the other day, not near as bad as i thought it would be. My wife loved it, I thought it was ok. But I like the new JK's better. The dealership i was at must plan on selling a bunch since they had about 7 instock(this is small dealer). They left one unlock also, very comfy in front and rear seats. We will deffinatly be considering one.

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Unread 11-13-2006, 08:54 PM   #32
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90% of the people who buy Jeeps, the one's who are keeping them in business don't do it because they will off-road or go anywhere.

The 7 slot grille and lights are part of the corporate identity, something of a trademark (unsuccessful efforts to enforce it against Hummer notwithstanding).

They are tantamount to a commercial or a jingle and help consumers make a mental connection to the brand image.

And since those 90% of people who buy Jeeps because of that image or off-road prowess not because of the actual capability that they will never use, WHY is it a problem to market to an even larger segement of people who are just more willing to admit that.

My logic is not silly, it is LOGIC.

Your argument is based strictly on emotion. You're not recognizing other forces at work. The most important one being that Jeep is a company which needs to maximize profitability if it is going to stick around and build ANYTHING.

The Compass is just one tool for doing that.

It is NOT the beginning of the end.

It is the beginning of a little bit of diversity for a changing world.

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Ok you're good. From that standpoint, I agree totally. Just thought on your previous post that you praising the Compass to be the end all be all, surpassing everything the Wrangler has achieved. CLARIFICATION COMPLETE fack.
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Unread 11-14-2006, 05:48 AM   #33
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Just thought on your previous post that you praising the Compass to be the end all be all, surpassing everything the Wrangler has achieved. CLARIFICATION COMPLETE fack.
Oh no sir.

Jeep IS the Wrangler/Rubicon etc.

Libbys are ok.

GCs are kinda cool, but also stray from the center.

A Commander might be in our future someday.

My praise for the Compass (and probably Patriot too) was based on how well it meets our current needs. Though, ironically, I wound up with a Subaru instead. But then again, that is the same market segment, and it easily could have gone the other way.


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Unread 11-26-2006, 10:42 AM   #34
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I am just glad I got my TJ when I did. I have had other Jeeps before, an XJ and a YJ, so I favor the I6 engine and am a little dissapointed about Jeep using V6 now. I will always drive a Jeep (Wrangler) and tried to get my wife to get one also. I was successful, but she wanted a Liberty a few years ago. I would have rather she drove a TJ, but she does drive the kids around. She is trading in the Liberty now for the Compass. I am not a big fan of the new looks that Jeep is going with. Too rounded and too plastic for my taste. But whatever, atleast she is driving the Jeep name.
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Unread 11-26-2006, 11:11 AM   #35
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I am just glad I got my TJ when I did. I have had other Jeeps before, an XJ and a YJ, so I favor the I6 engine and am a little dissapointed about Jeep using V6 now. I will always drive a Jeep (Wrangler) and tried to get my wife to get one also. I was successful, but she wanted a Liberty a few years ago. I would have rather she drove a TJ, but she does drive the kids around. She is trading in the Liberty now for the Compass. I am not a big fan of the new looks that Jeep is going with. Too rounded and too plastic for my taste. But whatever, atleast she is driving the Jeep name.
Maybe you can compromise. Did you show her the pictures of the Patriot due out at the first of the year? There may be some "intro" specials to be had for the first ones delivered. Not that I'm complaining about another Compass owner among us!

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Unread 11-27-2006, 06:07 PM   #36
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Maybe you can compromise. Did you show her the pictures of the Patriot due out at the first of the year? There may be some "intro" specials to be had for the first ones delivered. Not that I'm complaining about another Compass owner among us!

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She likes the Patriot but says she wants the Compass because it fits her style more. Whatever!!!!! As long as its American made and Jeep named, I am happy.
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Unread 11-27-2006, 06:31 PM   #37
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She likes the Patriot but says she wants the Compass because it fits her style more. Whatever!!!!! As long as its American made and Jeep named, I am happy.
I know what she means, I like "different" myself. My wife likes the Patriot.

"Whatever!!!!!As long as its American made and Jeep named, I am happy." EXACTLY!
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Unread 12-06-2006, 08:47 AM   #38
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I don't like the Compass compared to other Jeeps, and I don't like the Compass compared to the competition. I mean it's not that bad for a compact SUV, but it's definetely not good for a Jeep. I don't have any problem with the Patriot because Jeep needs a compact SUV to compete with the competition. But the Patriot looks like a real Jeep, has a low range, and with the off-road package it is one inch higher than the base Patriot or the Compass (all Patriots should be one inch higher). The Patriot isn't completely a real Jeep either, but it's alot closer than the Compass.
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Unread 12-06-2006, 10:03 AM   #39
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I don't like the Compass compared to other Jeeps, and I don't like the Compass compared to the competition. I mean it's not that bad for a compact SUV, but it's definetely not good for a Jeep. I don't have any problem with the Patriot because Jeep needs a compact SUV to compete with the competition. But the Patriot looks like a real Jeep
So you're saying the Libby doesn't LOOK like a real Jeep either then...
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Unread 12-06-2006, 12:30 PM   #40
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That's exactly why I don't like the Compass. If they wanted to expand Jeep to the WRC rally car segment that's fine, and I think they had a real winner with the original concept. What happened between that original concept and the production model I have no idea, but whoever made the changes should be fired!
X2 ! That concept compass looks awesome, same with the Charger. What happened? The Compass looks like a Pontiac Aztec and a Hyundai Santa Fe had sex and this is the result! Good Grief is that one of Lee sisters? Home or Ug? The Caliber on the other habd looks pretty cool.
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Unread 12-06-2006, 02:20 PM   #41
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I certainly appreciate the Jeep legacy as a Rubicon Trail rated kick *** 4X4.
Although I bought a Compass, I can't say I've ever seen a Jeep I didn't like.
I may not be into mods such as monster truck wheels and such, but hey...we all have our own tastes.

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We dislike the Compass because we ware watching the down fall of a great company due to MPG restrictions set by the government.

Oh. And you can;t make a compass look like this.
...That's one bad *** looking machine ...to rent one for a weekend
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Unread 12-25-2006, 08:40 PM   #42
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It's not for me...but if chrysler sells them and they make money off em to keep Jeep in business thats cool

And I think everyone was dissapointed when they nixxed out the concept Charger, it looked sick.
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Unread 12-25-2006, 09:33 PM   #43
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Jeep folks always complain about the new models not being Jeeps. CJ folks didn't like the square headlights on the YJs, people didn't like the lack of leaf springs on TJs. XJs were a unibody but were exactly what Jeep needed to stay in business. Same thing with the Grands, they fit a market.

The new models are the same thing. Subaru has been killing the American car makers. They make a nice, easy to drive, all-wheel-drive vehicle that could achieve non-SUV fuel mileage. Jeep is taking a shot at them. Rock on DC, make enough money to keep building the short wheel based, flat windshielded, dirt bugs that we all love.

As for the 'Real Jeeps and a 7-slot grill' try this;
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Unread 12-25-2006, 10:56 PM   #44
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Since I am a recent Compass owner I'm definitely biased on this subject, but I see a place for this vehicle in Jeep's lineup. If you don't like it, don't buy it...plain and simple.

Some of us own multiple vehicles, including "real" Jeeps that can crawl over rocks with the best of them. But for day-to-day commuting - not to mention that I cover a four-state territory - I needed something that was safe, comfortable and easy on gas. At one point in my life I could only afford one vehicle that would stand up to the most severe use I would dish out to it, but now I'm lucky to be able to afford more than one. While some purists are more comfortable with the Liberty, Commander and Grand Cherokee, the truth is that these vehicles also contain compromises, and none met my desire for good gas mileage. I guess I could have waited for the Patriot, but since I wanted a new vehicle NOW, would you have preferred to see me buy a non-Jeep vehicle?

One other thing I noticed on another Jeep board, which I found VERY amusing: A poster let off an extremely unfriendly rant about the Compass, without many specifics as to his reasoning. When I checked out his profile, it turns out he is a 16-year-old who drives a late model Grand Cherokee. Hmm...guess I might also have a different opinion of the Compass if I were still driving Daddy's $30,000+ vehicle, and someone else was likely paying for my gas...
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Unread 01-17-2007, 08:40 PM   #45
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