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post #16 of 83 Old 07-23-2013, 10:04 AM
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CVTF+4 cost the dealer more than $40 for a gallon. It retails for like $25 a qt.
Then I got a deal I guess.


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post #17 of 83 Old 07-24-2013, 05:49 AM
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I checked my receipts when I got home and I paid $64.48 w/tax for a gallon of CVTF+4 at the dealer. Still under $25 a quart.

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post #18 of 83 Old 09-01-2013, 09:54 PM
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Starting Recall Effort for Jeep Patriot Transmission Overheat

Hey guys, I'm working on getting Chrysler to address this problem on a larger scale--they wouldn't fix mine either...it's absolutely ridiculous. Share your story on (oneword): Jeep Patriot Transmission Overheat (dot) com
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post #19 of 83 Old 10-05-2013, 09:32 AM
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JF011E DIY
The JF011E is a bit of a sad transmission. So much so Jeep is discontinuing them in the 2014 model year…from what I hear. Mine failed at 144k.
The whine comes from the failure of the Koho bearings on the transfer gear as a result of a lack of lubrication. The noise gets louder until the debris from the bearings fills the filter reducing the fluid pressure producing a P700 or P777 code giving you limp mode. The TCM code cannot be reset without the factory interface. An $80 service charge.
Chrysler, as of yet, supplies no parts for these transmissions. If you are out of warranty you are SOL.
I got mine from a wrecker. $1200. I was fortunate as it was the only one in a 500km radius. This should tell you something.
The difficult bolts to reach are at 9 and 3 O’clock on the bell housing. You might want a fresh 14mm wrench as striping them reduces your options.
If there is damage to the bearings but not the case you could get lucky by replacing the bearings. My Patriot was not as fortunate as the case was destroyed.
Free manuals are available on line, after some searching.
I know this will help some and put others into despair.
I replaced mine then sold the car.
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post #20 of 83 Old 12-13-2013, 06:51 PM
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Thanks to the User 2600844. My 2008 jeep is making a high pitch whine too and the dealer said thar since I didn't our jade warranty it would cost about three thousand to fix the cvt. When I bought it used they promised that the cvt is warranted until 100,000 miles. Depending on how this ends I may never buy a jeep again.
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post #21 of 83 Old 12-16-2013, 06:10 AM
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Take it to a Nissan dealer, They actually fix the cvt vs just replace. They use the same unit in a lot of their cars.

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post #22 of 83 Old 08-05-2014, 10:46 AM
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same problem. glad to finally have pinpointed the problem. best example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOX-ufuwYiE

only 33k miles on my 2011 Pat FDII. I've read the CVT fluid replacement nor the (oil) cooler solves the problem. i have a service appt scheduled friday, but it seems a wash; i'm over my 3 year (not that it matters as they're ghetto and will invariably pinpoint a knee jerk remedy not covered); definitely not going to pay their $150 charge to diagnosis (insult to injury).

so for me, it's intermittent, only when hot and especially uphill climb, like clockwork. what's best course of action? I'm thinking I will sell this lemon and never look at a Patriot again; whole GD point of FDII was climbing. But this broken CVT kinda rules that out.

not much update at j33p patriot dot transmissionoverheat dot com
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post #23 of 83 Old 08-05-2014, 10:49 AM
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Take it to a Nissan dealer, They actually fix the cvt vs just replace. They use the same unit in a lot of their cars.


nissan really knows how to fix this?

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Thanks to the User 2600844. My 2008 jeep is making a high pitch whine too and the dealer said thar since I didn't our jade warranty it would cost about three thousand to fix the cvt. When I bought it used they promised that the cvt is warranted until 100,000 miles. Depending on how this ends I may never buy a jeep again.
so what happened? thx
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post #24 of 83 Old 09-08-2015, 11:00 AM
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Transmission Overheat

I have 2014 Jeep Patriot with 88k miles on it. Twice the transmission has started whining, overheat indicator comes on, RPM about 4, mph decreasing rapidly, must pull over and let cool down. First instance had about 82900 miles on it. Was making about 85mile trip on interstate, constant 70mph. After about 70miles overheated. Let it cool down and finished trip without incident. Took into dealer when got home. They changed transmission fluid and filter, said should be fine, these transmissions require the fluid and filter to be changed every 60k.....Second incident was at 88800 miles. Just started trip home from Bowling Green Ky. went about 30miles on interstate, constant 75mph. Exact same symptoms. Cooled down and drove 400 miles without further incident. I contacted dealer, said will have to bring in for diagnosis. Now what are the chances that will do it at the shop?
I think is ridiculous. I was going to pull trailer with this Jeep. What a joke it is not reliable to pull itself. I have never changed transmission fluid in my Chevy and it would drag this Jeep around the country without whining. Jeep needs to fix or replace this junk transmission.
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post #25 of 83 Old 09-08-2015, 06:06 PM
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I assume yours is the CVT. I have not had any trouble with the Hyundai 6 Speed in my Compass....yet!
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post #26 of 83 Old 09-10-2015, 01:10 PM
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I have 2014 Jeep Patriot with 88k miles on it. Twice the transmission has started whining, overheat indicator comes on, RPM about 4, mph decreasing rapidly, must pull over and let cool down. First instance had about 82900 miles on it. Was making about 85mile trip on interstate, constant 70mph. After about 70miles overheated. Let it cool down and finished trip without incident. Took into dealer when got home. They changed transmission fluid and filter, said should be fine, these transmissions require the fluid and filter to be changed every 60k.....Second incident was at 88800 miles. Just started trip home from Bowling Green Ky. went about 30miles on interstate, constant 75mph. Exact same symptoms. Cooled down and drove 400 miles without further incident. I contacted dealer, said will have to bring in for diagnosis. Now what are the chances that will do it at the shop?
I think is ridiculous. I was going to pull trailer with this Jeep. What a joke it is not reliable to pull itself. I have never changed transmission fluid in my Chevy and it would drag this Jeep around the country without whining. Jeep needs to fix or replace this junk transmission.

Hello RDJohnson,

Sorry to hear about your recent experiences with your Patriot. Have you had the vehicle diagnosed for a second time at an FCA certified dealership? If you would like me to look further into this for you, please private message me your VIN and servicing dealer.
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Not bad

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I have 2014 Jeep Patriot with 88k miles on it. Twice the transmission has started whining, overheat indicator comes on, RPM about 4, mph decreasing rapidly, must pull over and let cool down. First instance had about 82900 miles on it. Was making about 85mile trip on interstate, constant 70mph. After about 70miles overheated. Let it cool down and finished trip without incident. Took into dealer when got home. They changed transmission fluid and filter, said should be fine, these transmissions require the fluid and filter to be changed every 60k.....Second incident was at 88800 miles. Just started trip home from Bowling Green Ky. went about 30miles on interstate, constant 75mph. Exact same symptoms. Cooled down and drove 400 miles without further incident. I contacted dealer, said will have to bring in for diagnosis. Now what are the chances that will do it at the shop?
I think is ridiculous. I was going to pull trailer with this Jeep. What a joke it is not reliable to pull itself. I have never changed transmission fluid in my Chevy and it would drag this Jeep around the country without whining. Jeep needs to fix or replace this junk transmission.

Looks like you have one of the good ones. I had a 2012 I believe and had the exact same issues, only it began at 14,000 miles. Not only did mine whine but it shut off as we were headed to Vegas from Utah, good times... about 1,000 degrees out and a broken down car. After about 30 minutes of letting it cool off we were able to get going again, what a piece of crap. After that incident I didn't trust it for any long road trips. They ended up putting in a new transmission in mine at 14,000 miles. Another 1k later it whine again up hills every time... got bad, took it in again, tried pursuing lemon laws which didn't work... I got to the point I just traded it in. The CVT transmission in the Patriot is the absolute worst, sorry to tell you. If I were you get rid of it sooner than later, it'll just continue to break down on you. Good luck!
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post #28 of 83 Old 09-11-2015, 09:37 AM
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My 2011 started this in August 2011. It has 38,000 now so I'm guessing it was around 28k then. It has yet to go into limp mode but it whines on every road trip and screams going uphill. Im driving it weekly from Fresno to San Francisco now, only a matter of time before it craps out.

My question is why are people continuing to have the problem after the fluid change?
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post #29 of 83 Old 09-11-2015, 09:39 AM
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Oops, August 2014 I meant. A year ago basically.
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post #30 of 83 Old 09-11-2015, 11:19 PM
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Fujative, It's simple ...the cvt is a Nissan design...= BAD...I fluid can't fix a design fault...sell the car and stay away from cvt's perhaps the only "good" cvt is Honda.
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