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Unread 07-14-2010, 01:18 PM   #211
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Anyone heard anything about these? I need to finally replace the crappy Firestones that came on my Rallye after 31K and these seem to be really good for the price...

and I'm looking at getting them in 225/60R18's - for those of you running this size - did you have any problems with the dealership recalibrating your ride for the bigger tires?

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Unread 07-14-2010, 07:42 PM   #212
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why bother with recalibration???

I got the Michelin Primacy MXV4 in 225/60/18 on my Compass. Doing a tire calculator, the speedo is off 4.58%. Meaning your going that much faster than the speedo indicates. It's really a trivial amount.

Example:
Indicated 35MPH Actual +4.58%= 36.6MPh
Indicated 55MPH Actual +4.58%= 57.5MPH
Indicated 70MPH Actual +4.58%= 73.2MPH
Indicated 100MPH Actual +4.58%= 104.6MPG

As you see its really not much to bother with when most law enforcement will allow a leeway of more than that

If your Compass or Pat has the fuel economy and distance to empty it will be 4.58% better than indicated. You traveled 4.58% further then the odometer reads and gas mileage is slightly better cause the computer of the vehicle doesn't know you went 4.58% further.

All and all its pretty trivial amount to be worried. Don't beat yourself up over it. Hope this helps!

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Unread 07-15-2010, 07:48 AM   #213
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well its at the dealership - and they're willing to re-program it while it's there for service (tires show up next week) so I figured I'd have them do it

my buddy said he could only see the stock 18's tire size in the witech computer (he didn't have much time to poke around deeper though)

so how were other people able to get them re-flashed with the new tire sizes?

Edit: see http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/r...-size-1070276/
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Unread 09-01-2010, 12:21 PM   #214
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Does anybody else have any confirmation that the 15" Cragar or Unique soft 8 rims will fit the Patriot? I'd really like to get a set. The backspacing sounds ideal to me on the 15" versus the 16"
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Unread 09-10-2010, 11:21 AM   #215
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I have not re-read this entire thread but I remember that 15" wheels will Not fit over the brakes on a Patriot.
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Unread 09-10-2010, 07:52 PM   #216
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None that we knew of when that statement was written. We had asked/hoped that someone would try the Caliber 15's (drum brake model) but never heard back. These Cragars had not been tried at that time. We're still waiting for confirmation.
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Unread 09-26-2010, 05:18 PM   #217
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Just thought I'd throw a warning out to all (somewhat related to this thread) I recently outfitted my Patriot with the rro lift, cragar wheels, 29" general grabbers, and the thule MOAB on the roof for the spare. Upon taking a road trip this past weekend, I discovered a significant drop in my gas mileage, getting around 230 miles on a FULL tank of gas, and thats pushing it right to the end. I'm gonna take the basket off to see how much the wind resistance attributed to this. But nonetheless, any out there who intend to make similar modifications beware of the consequences!
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Unread 10-02-2010, 11:19 AM   #218
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Also thought I'd throw out there; I have a torn CV boot on my left front axle, so I took it to the Jeep dealership. Instantly they noticed my larger tires, and higher ground clearance and informed me that my warranties were all void because of these modifications. I tried to reason with them, but to no avail. Bigger tires void the powertrain warranty!
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Unread 10-25-2010, 06:02 PM   #219
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Replacement tire for 08 Compass Limited

Has anyone with a Compass Limited replaced the original tires,the OEM,
P215/55R18 all-season performance tires have been cr-p in the snow and the choices with this size is very limited. Were you able to move up or down within the 18 inch group of tires??
Any suggestions, my wife really want to get rid of these tires before the snow this winter.
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Unread 10-25-2010, 06:44 PM   #220
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IMHO the best on road SUV tire available it the Michelin Cross Terrain. Phenomenal wet traction. Quiet ride and for to 60-80K miles depending on driving habits. The sipes are full depth so you get the same wet traction at 60K miles as you do new.
I was on my third set when I sold the Cherokee at 187K miles on it.
It is the tire I will put on our Patriot when it it is time to replace the original tires.
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Unread 10-25-2010, 08:04 PM   #221
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Check out this one Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1

It's the 235/55-18 Bridgestone Blizak DM-V1 @ $137 each. Bridgestone (usually) has a sale this time of year. These are 28.2" tall and would keep your speedo pretty close. If I were staying with 18" I would give these a look. That opinion is based on your winters being as crappy as mine.

I'm sure the Mich Cross Terrains are nice but they don't come in a size close enough.

These are the size possibilities for 18"

215/55R18” – 27.3" stock
225/55R18” – 27.8"
225/60R18” – 28.6"
235/50R18" - 27.3"
235/55R18” – 28.2"
235/60R18” – 29.1"
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Unread 10-25-2010, 08:13 PM   #222
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I'm sure the Mich Cross Terrains are nice but they don't come in a size close enough.
Damn. It will be a few years before we need tires for out '10 Patriot. By then hopefully there is the right size.

Bliz is a purely winter tire. Very sticky. And great for winter in the northern states, north of the PA/NY border. But south of that they get hot on warmer winter days. And the wear fast. Not made for high mileage. But they are probably the best snow and ice specific tire available.
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Unread 10-25-2010, 08:55 PM   #223
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That's one of the reasons that many have a dedicated winter tire, if you can afford it. You can ALWAYS write to your favorite tire manufacturer and ask them to put it on their list. If they have enough requests they just may make it.

One of my favs is Firestone Destination A/T that will go on the wife's WK next year.

I always end up suggesting getting a set of 16" rims and finding something that you like. The prices and sizes are much better. But I've seen a lot of new stuff available for the 17" too, so don't overlook that size either. The 18" is just not as popular and the choices are limited.

Unless you get the standard 16" steel wheels on your patriot you'll be looking for 17" tires. My personal choice is to stay with 28" tall but 29" or even 29 1/2" is OK if you have a lift or need something for a special purpose. I do suggest going for the right tread as opposed to simply tire height.

215/60R17” – 27.2" – Standard
215/65R17” – 28” – FD II Off-road and optional
225/60R17” – 27.6”
225/65R17” - 28.5”
225/70R17” – 29.4"
235/55R17” – 27.2"
235/60R17" - 28.1"
235/65R17” – 29.0"

Michelin Cross terrain do come in a 235/65-17 that are 28.9 tall Lucky you!
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Unread 10-25-2010, 09:06 PM   #224
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One of my favs is Firestone Destination A/T that will go on the wife's WK next year.

I always end up suggesting getting a set of 16" rims and finding something that you like. The prices and sizes are much better. But I've seen a lot of new stuff available for the 17" too, so don't overlook that size either. The 18" is just not as popular and the choices are limited.
I can't even remember what size the wheels are on my wife's patriot. No AT's for that one. Strictly AS. My wife likes quiet.
Now, on my JK, I am deciding between Pitbull Rockers and TRXUS MT. 37x12.5" TRXUS MT is the quieter of the two.
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Unread 10-25-2010, 09:12 PM   #225
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If you have steel wheels they are 16"

If they are chrome clad then they are 17"

Compass Limited (and some Ralleys) were the only ones that got stuck with 18's.
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