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Unread 04-17-2007, 06:32 PM   #1
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Optional tires/wheels for MK's (pg 6 for sizes)

Just like the title says. Just wondering if the rims that I currently have will fit on the Patriot.
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Unread 04-17-2007, 08:06 PM   #2
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5 on 4.5", 4.7" back spacing. Same as:

87-95 Jeep Wrangler (YJ)
97-06 Jeep Wrangler (TJ)
04-06 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (TJ)
93-98 Jeep Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
84-01 Jeep Cherokee (XJ)
86-92 Jeep Comanche (MJ)
02-07 Jeep Liberty (KJ)
2007 Jeep Compass (MK)
2007 Jeep Patriot (MK)

and a whole bunch of other stuff.

info from here:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/92500_00X_B_PG.htm
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Unread 04-17-2007, 08:16 PM   #3
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Is that the same across the patriot, compass and calibers???
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Unread 04-17-2007, 08:38 PM   #4
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Caliber is also 5 on 4.5 but with a 45m (1.77") offset. It also looks like some are trying to call these 5 on 113/114/115mm but Jeep still uses US measurements.

http://www.autotrucktoys.com/dodge_c...2606C3977.aspx

More general wheel and tire info including backspacing and offset:

https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html
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Unread 05-03-2007, 10:35 AM   #5
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Optional tires/wheels for MK's

I just took home a pat limited with a 5 spd and FD1 package. Somewhere in the mix (when i ordered it 6 weeks ago) the dealer did not put down that I asked for the all terrain tires, and we would up with the firestone honda civic tires.
Well the purpose of getting a 4x4 was to have a little more ground clearance, but the guy didn't pick up on that for whatever reason.

Anyways, I am planning on selling the firestones and going with something bigger, but dont know how big I can go on a stock suspension.
Does the FD2 package include a body lift, or does it gain the clearance from the goodyear tires? its only a small change (215/60 vs 215/65) but that might be over an inch of clearance. The 215/65 could have come with the FD1 package, but if I can go a little bigger, why not.

I'm a little tweaked that they didnt have the FD2 with a stick, but I'd rather have the 5 speed than the low gear, that I have only used once on my Tacoma in 5 years.

oh yeah.. no FLOORMATS

WTF over? $25k vehicle and it doesn't come standard with floormats
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Unread 05-03-2007, 11:40 AM   #6
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yokohama is the only company that i have seen make a tire that will fit without changing anything, it is the geolander ats in size 225/65/17. i wouldnt consider the goodyear tires to be an all terrain since they suck on almost any surface. of course this is just my opinion.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 12:14 PM   #7
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Before you do much changing on tire sizes, check out the links in post #2 here:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/tires-348852/

It's something that many of us have wondered about and I had planned on exploring the issue a bit more shortly. Whatever you find out, please give us some feed back.

I also pm'd JeepEnginners and asked how and what they did to get the "Lifted Patriot" that is in another thread. They have read the pm but have not responded. Maybe they are trying to contact the group that did the work on it.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 03:07 PM   #8
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how much larger are the /65's than the /60's in terms of lift?

It just looks tiny with the original firestones on it.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 04:46 PM   #9
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not much of a diff, i think the 60s are a 28 in tire and 65 are closer to 29. but the added sidewall seems to make a difference on looks. my neighbor has the 215/65/17 on their compass and ours has the 215/60/17 the 65s fill the wheel well better and just look better.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 04:52 PM   #10
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edit button not working for me, but the size of the 60 is 27.2" and 65 is even 28"
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Unread 05-03-2007, 05:26 PM   #11
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WOW 07compasssport! Good eye

These are the static dimensions: 1" taller tire =1/2 more GC. (Dumb thing to say but I had to.)

P205/70R16=27.28in
P215/60R17=27.16
P215/65R17=28.00
P215/55R18=27.31

16"=406mm
17"=431.8mm
18"=457.2mm

1"=25.4mm

Width x Aspect Ratio = Section Height
Section Height x 2 = Combined Section Height
Combined Section Height + Wheel Diameter = Tire Diameter

Example: 205/70R16

205mm x .70=143.5mm
143.5mm x 2=287mm
287mm + 406mm (16")= 693mm or 27.28"

The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example above, the width is 205mm or 8.07".

The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height to width. In the example above, the tire is 8.07" wide, multiply that by the aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case, 205x0.70=143.5mm or 8.07"x0.70=5.649".

The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 06:59 PM   #12
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thanks gramps, gotta love the tire size calculators that are available on the internet. not so good at long math like u.
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Unread 05-03-2007, 07:55 PM   #13
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I cheat. I use the calc on the computer. Gimme a yard stick any day!

Keep in mind that a change in tire height will change your speedo reading and I'm not sure how it can be recalibrated, but changing to a slightly different size and keeping the height about the same can give you a better tread design.

I have a lot more choices by going to a P225/60R18 on my Limited and that's a 28.62" tire, 1.31" more than what I've got now. It also puts me up to 9.15" GC without a lift kit. Humm, things are looking good!

Don't take what I'm saying as advising you to go this way. A lot depends on how hard you might drive the trails and how hard you expect the suspension to work and it's travel. If you hit the boulders, logs or whatever too hard running a bigger tire than advised (28") you could end up with body/tire damage. If you take it easy you shouldn't have any problems.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
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Unread 05-06-2007, 08:45 AM   #14
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This may be useful information, or not.

The Liberty and MK's run similar Tire Pressure Monitoring systems.

The Mk's have tire heights from 27.16" to 28.00" and use sensor 56063 030AB

The Liberty's have tire heights from 28.93" to 29.27" and use sensor 56053 036AA

The dealers (mine any way) are able to reprogram the computer (for the speedometer reading) to adjust for a 2" variation in tire height for about $80.
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Bolt spacing on the Patriot compaired to the Grand Cherokee

I just bought my wife an 07 Patriot and looking to add some rims. I was wondering if anyone had tried sticking grand Cherokee rims on a Patriot or the compuss. I dont know anyone with a Grand Cherokee so I have not had a chance to test with the spare. I am not sure what the exact parameters are due to the owners manuel being with my wife at the moment. Also anyone have any idea on how big of rims I could stick on a stock Patriot with decent low profile tires?

Befor anyone jumps to conclutions please remember that my wife only got the FD1 AWD for safty durring our winters here in denver and this is only going to be driven on main public roads.

As a little side note we got the 16" rims due to a mix up at the dealership when buying this vehical. Yes we did get a discount but those 16" rims drive me nuts! it just runes the look of the vehical. It looks overyly top heavy.
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