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Unread 02-23-2013, 08:14 AM   #1
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Looking for some feedback on Patriot and Compass

Hi guys and gals. First Time posting here on this side of the forum. I am usually harassing the liberty side.

I am looking into picking up a new toy for the wife. Have been looking at both the 2013 Patriot and Compass. Can you guys give me some input and opinions on on the differences. I need some arm twisting on which one to go with. Not looking to go to crazy with any mods aside from maybe throwing some extra lights on it.

Basic features I am looking for is automatic, satellite radio, off road package if I can actually find a 2013 with it in it and that's basically it. Other options I want are the fog lamps and remote start but from what I can read on the jeep website is that both models come standard with these. Is that true?

Thanks in advance for all your input.

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Unread 02-23-2013, 10:56 AM   #2
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The compass/patriots are almost exactly the same mechanically. The compass doesn't have quite as much clearance with the off road package vs the patriot, not sure why, but its about .5" shorter.

Fogs I believe are standard on every trim level now, but remote start is not, it is an option, and you have to either get the limited trim, or option it up with it. remote locking doors is standard on all but the patriot sport, but if you get the power group (power windows etc) you get them as well.

The big differences between any of them is the drive, you have 3 options, FWD, FDI, FDII.

FWD is just that, you can have it with a 2.0L, or 2.4L, stick or auto. Perfect for a runaround town car.
FDI - is an "all weather" car, It has awd, with the ability to "lock" the central diff with a 50/50 power split. You gain an inch of clearance over the FWD cars as well.
FDII - this is the off road package. It comes standard with 17" rims, tow hooks, skid plates, a pseudo low range gear (it has a lower final drive ratio), Hill decent control, brake lock differential, etc.

So it really depends on what your wife is going to do with it, but you mention in your post that you are looking for an off road package, that would be the FDII. That's what I have. You take a MPG hit for it... but if you plan on doing any off road with it. 100% worth it in my opinion.

other than having an auto, any specific needs she's looking for? does she have a preference on looks?

I would suggest a lift if you are gonna off road, so you can fit bigger wheels:
http://www.rocky-road.com/patriotsus.html
These are the tires I have, they have been excellent and way better than stock tires:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...=AZEINT&cs=245

and you will need wheel spacers (5*4.5 bolt pattern, 1.25"), I haven't found a light bar I like yet, I was looking at an LED set that would fit down in the bumper, but haven't decided yet.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 11:24 AM   #3
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For fun (because it's painfully slow at work today) I took a look at the options in your area. Looks like just about every compass/patriot has the remote start option, or a package that has the remote start in it,probably because you're in a cold climate, makes sense.

Here are the FDII vehicles I found:
This is the cheapest:
http://www.baysidechryslerjeepdodge....2077f1211f.htm

The rest of these are optioned up pretty high, but with 2014's coming off the lot, you should get a smoking deal on them:

http://www.baysidechryslerjeepdodge....3ab600a294.htm
http://www.starchryslerjeepdodge.net...8e5ca60d05.htm
http://www.baysidechryslerjeepdodge....1cf2dedf0f.htm
http://www.starchryslerjeepdodge.net...e436d2f13d.htm
http://www.starchryslerjeepdodge.net...e4d3978c9e.htm
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Unread 02-23-2013, 11:47 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies guys. Looking at one of those links, I didn't realize I would loose so much on the MPG going with the FDII. I do not plan on doing any off reading with it aside from a little dirt/grassy field here and there up in the woods. I have my KK for the bigger stuff.

My main thing is the MPG (she does 65 mile round trip) through NYC everyday so need the numbers to be there. As far as the 4wd, my reasoning for that is the winters and the snow. It takes a significant snow fall for her work to close so want something suitable for that. Perhaps the FD-I would be fine for that.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 01:33 PM   #5
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if you're not off roading, probably want to go with the FDI then. I got mine to go off roading, so I got the FDII... If I was using it as a commuter I might even go with FWD, a lot of guys on another jeep patriot dot com website have FWD in the snow, and can give you a better assesment, but it does pretty well. I would say get better tires than the stock ones, especially the wrangler sra's they really stink.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 02:26 PM   #6
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I've had my 2013 Patriot for about three months now. It's got the Freedom 1 drive with the CVT automatic. So far I've had it thru 6" of snow without even having to engage the differential lock. It did fine even with the stock goodyear tires. I've also had it on muddy backroads with some pretty steep hills. I did engage the 4x4 lock that time, but it got up the hill with no problem.
The mpg have been around 25 mpg with mixed highway/in town miles. (mostly highway)

Mechanically... in the first 2400 miles so far, no problems at all.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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if you're not off roading, probably want to go with the FDI then. I got mine to go off roading, so I got the FDII... If I was using it as a commuter I might even go with FWD, a lot of guys on another jeep patriot dot com website have FWD in the snow, and can give you a better assesment, but it does pretty well. I would say get better tires than the stock ones, especially the wrangler sra's they really stink.
Deff want something capable of AWD. Was originally looking at Subaru legacy, but when saw that patriot and compass are pretty comparable I was looking into them as well. I am quite familiar with the SRA's. still have them on the KK. Although I have had no problem traction wise in anything I have put it through, the tread ware is awful.

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Unread 02-23-2013, 04:53 PM   #8
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I've had my 2013 Patriot for about three months now. It's got the Freedom 1 drive with the CVT automatic. So far I've had it thru 6" of snow without even having to engage the differential lock. It did fine even with the stock goodyear tires. I've also had it on muddy backroads with some pretty steep hills. I did engage the 4x4 lock that time, but it got up the hill with no problem.
The mpg have been around 25 mpg with mixed highway/in town miles. (mostly highway)

Mechanically... in the first 2400 miles so far, no problems at all.
That's what I like to hear. I want something tht will blow through 6" with no hesitation. She has the potential of traveling in snow up to 10-12" before mayor closes her job so I want to be sure she is safe in those cases. I can be very satisfied with 25mpgs considering I think she averages about 14 in the KK.

How have you guys liked the CVT transmission? I have heard some dislikes for it.

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Unread 02-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #9
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:chimes in: dont like the CVT at all. Would give someone elses left nut for a real automatic. Its sluggish as he11 and gets 16 mpg around town. This is on a 2011 FD2 Patriot. Dealer says the feel of my tranny is typical. Nothing wrong.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 07:15 PM   #10
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Take a long test drive before buying. Freeway and Stop and Go traffic.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 08:20 PM   #11
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I really like the CVT, and my wife can't tell the difference between it and a normal auto. (she would prefer a stick but cant have that and the FDII) so its a matter of personal preference. Rent one, see if your local car rental place has one you can rent and take it for 2 or three days.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 09:49 PM   #12
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Fujative is right about the sluggishness, but I like the CVT on the highway...you don't feel the little 4 banger having to downshift every time it sees a hill. The FD1 works great and ~26 MPG on realworld highways.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 10:48 PM   #13
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I can agree on highway. It is smooth. But with FD2 it runs around 3,000 rpm over 65. Its below 20 mph where I hate it.
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Unread 02-25-2013, 04:05 PM   #14
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The guys that are unhappy with the sluggish CVT, are your engines the 2.0, or the 2.4?
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Unread 02-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #15
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