Originally Posted by WXman
I have looked at the Patriot off and on over the years. I am not sure if I'll get one but it's possible. From what I've learned there are things in the FDII package that you do not get in the all weather capability package. Better water sealing, higher mounted intake, low range, higher ride height, skid plates, etc. So I do not understand why any salesman would say you don't need FDII...just get the AWC package. That makes no sense.
If the ONLY thing on your mind as an inventory manager is fuel mileage, then you need to stop ordering Jeeps period and start ordering more Dodge Darts. If you're going to order Jeeps, then order at least some that are outfitted as a Jeep or I'm going to another dealership.
you obviously read what you wanted to read. i didn't say NOT to get the FD-II package. i said that it isn't for everyone, and many people go to it simply because they see it as an upgrade, without doing any research as to what it actually gives you and does to the jeep as a whole. however, as evidenced by this thread, the FD-II package is the right choice for some, albeit a very small percentage.
to compare the two packages i spoke of, the FD-II offroad group will give you the following options, with italics showing you what is also available in the all-weather capability group:
• 4-Wheel Drive Off-Road Mode (AWP)
• 140 Amp Alternator (BAE)
• Hill Start Assist (BNG)
• Hill Descent Control (BNH)
• Brake Lock Differential (BNL)
• Tow Hooks (XEA)
• Bright Exhaust Tip (NEC)
• Engine Oil Cooler (NHA)
• Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield (XEE)
• Trans/Engine Oil Pan Skid Plate (XEP)
• Trailer Tow Wiring Harness (XEY)
• All-Season Floor Mats (CLF)
• Trail Rated Badge (MT2)
• Full Size Spare Tire (TBB)
• P215/65R17 OWL All Terrain Tires (TRX)
and the all-weather capability group will also gives you above and beyond italics above:
• Engine Block Heater (NHK)
• Daytime Running Headlamps, High Beam (LMK)
so the FD-II will give you a lot of the functional off-road equipment that the AWCG will not. the FD-II package will allow you more travel off-road, less gas mileage, and trail rated ability. but news flash: 99% of the people who buy the MK want a decent 4WD vehicle that gets good gas mileage! in seven years, i have had one...ONE
...person say they specifically want a FD-II MK over a FD-I. now, if i can only have a dozen MKs on my lot at a time, what sense does it make to keep a FD-II sitting on the lot that will rot and make me pay floor plan interest on it? i need to stock what sells. for every FD-II jeep that sells, a hundred FD-I jeeps sell. if you're so closed minded not to be able to see that and feel that you wouldn't go to a certain dealership because they're smaller and have a specific inventory plan, i'm sorry you feel that way. but i can't afford to order something that won't sell. if you want one, i will find you one, that's not a problem. but i can't order something that will do nothing but grow lot rot. i know more about jeeps than many (but not all) people on here. i know about the packages, the features, what's underneath, their history, etc. but at the end of the day, i also need to do what's right for the company, and ordering something that very few people want over something that is extremely popular is not a smart business decision.