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post #1 of 15 Old 03-16-2012, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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Load leveling hitch for a patriot

I am looking at installing a class 3 hitch on my 08 patriot. Can I use a load leveling hitch for the trailer to jeep?

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post #2 of 15 Old 03-20-2012, 10:47 AM
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Are you really going to be pulling any thing that heavy. I just put a hitch on my compass and have no sag with a loaded trailer. If your going to tow a lot you should upgrade to an oil cooler. But to answer your question I don't see why not.
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Isn't the patriot only rated for a class 1 hitch??
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This was taken from the Owner's Manual:
Trailer Hitch Classification
The following chart provides the industry standard for
the maximum trailer weight a given trailer hitch class can
tow and should be used to assist you in selecting the
correct trailer hitch for your intended towing condition.
Trailer Hitch Classification Definitions
Class Max. Trailer Hitch Industry
Standards
Class I - Light Duty 2,000 lbs
Class II – Medium Duty 3,500 lbs
Class III - Heavy Duty 5,000 lbs

Trailer Towing Weights
The following provides the maximum trailer weight ratings towable for a given drivetrain.
Engine/Transmission GTW (Gross Trailer Wt.)
2.4L Auto/Man 1000 lbs
2.4L Auto/Man with Trailer Tow Prep Package (AHC) 2000 lbs
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But what if your Patriot/Compass is neither an automatic or manual??
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My point exactly the max towing capacity of the patriot is 2000lbs which means you only can put a class one hitch on it you cannot put a class three hitch on it. Well you could but that would be a waste
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My point exactly the max towing capacity of the patriot is 2000lbs which means you only can put a class one hitch on it you cannot put a class three hitch on it. Well you could but that would be a waste
No, it isn't a waste at all. I actually installed a Class III hitch for a couple reasons.

( Oh, and incidentally, the Patriot has a 3000lbs max towing capacity over seas. Same vehicle other than the available diesel engine. The Patriot can handle a bit more than the 2000lbs body wise. The weak area is the drivetrain. )

1 - I wanted a 2" receiver opening vs the 1.25" on the MOPAR one and other Class I/II hitches.

2 - It increases your tongue weight from a pathetic 100-150lbs to 350lbs.

I tow a duck hunting boat that is somewhere in the 1500-1700lbs range. I definitely would not attempt to tow over 2000lbs with my 2011( 2.4L CVT w/ OC ). However, I much prefer the heavier Class III hitch with it's increased tongue weight and 2" receiver opening.

I am actually really, REALLY glad I went with an aftermarket Class III on my Patriot vs the MOPAR Class I hitch. I had an axle failure on my duck boat trailer this past fall and thank god I had a heavier hitch on there. If I had that Class I MOPAR hitch I really feel damage to the vehicle would have resulted when the axle snapped and the trailer crashed to the road as I was driving.

If you don't tow much a Class I or II hitch is fine but if you tow a lot or will push the max capacity of the Patriot to me a Class III is a no brainer. You also have more accessory options with a 2" receiver opening as well which appeals to may folks.

My 2011 w/ Reese Class III:



My Patriot with my Duck rig( and NEW trailer ):


Glad I had a Class III when this happened:


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But what if your Patriot/Compass is neither an automatic or manual??
Then it isn't driveable because it doesn't have a transmission so how much it can tow and what class hitch to use doesn't matter.

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I am looking at installing a class 3 hitch on my 08 patriot. Can I use a load leveling hitch for the trailer to jeep?


Yes, you can install a Class III hitch as I said above. However, as has been pointed out the Patriot has a 2000lbs max towing capacity( in the US anyway - 3000 over seas people have told me ). To be able to tow the 2000lbs you need to be sure you have the oil cooler( not trans cooler - engine oil cooler ). If you don't have it your max towing capacity is 1000lbs( US ).

After towing my duck boat all last season ( 1500-1700lbs )I definitely would not want to tow over 2000lbs with it. Maybe the over seas diesel engine has a bit more grunt and can haul more but for the 2.4L 2000 is MAX for it legitimately. I wouldn't even consider 2000 with the 2.0L gas engine.

Not sure what you are thinking of towing that requires load levelers that would fall within the max tow capacity of the vehicle? Keep that max tow capacity in mind before doing anything.

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Then it isn't driveable because it doesn't have a transmission so how much it can tow and what class hitch to use doesn't matter.
That was a CVT joke...
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No, it isn't a waste at all. I actually installed a Class III hitch for a couple reasons.

( Oh, and incidentally, the Patriot has a 3000lbs max towing capacity over seas. Same vehicle other than the available diesel engine. The Patriot can handle a bit more than the 2000lbs body wise. The weak area is the drivetrain. )

1 - I wanted a 2" receiver opening vs the 1.25" on the MOPAR one and other Class I/II hitches.

2 - It increases your tongue weight from a pathetic 100-150lbs to 350lbs.

I tow a duck hunting boat that is somewhere in the 1500-1700lbs range. I definitely would not attempt to tow over 2000lbs with my 2011( 2.4L CVT w/ OC ). However, I much prefer the heavier Class III hitch with it's increased tongue weight and 2" receiver opening.

I am actually really, REALLY glad I went with an aftermarket Class III on my Patriot vs the MOPAR Class I hitch. I had an axle failure on my duck boat trailer this past fall and thank god I had a heavier hitch on there. If I had that Class I MOPAR hitch I really feel damage to the vehicle would have resulted when the axle snapped and the trailer crashed to the road as I was driving.

If you don't tow much a Class I or II hitch is fine but if you tow a lot or will push the max capacity of the Patriot to me a Class III is a no brainer. You also have more accessory options with a 2" receiver opening as well which appeals to may folks.

My 2011 w/ Reese Class III:

My Patriot with my Duck rig( and NEW trailer ):

Glad I had a Class III when this happened:
I was wondering why you were talking about putting a class three hitch on. That makes sense. I'm looking for options since I hunt as well. I wanna get one of those flat cargo things so I don't have to put my deer inside my nice new patriot. Plus I'll eventually be getting a small trailer for my model airplanes. Thanks for the info.
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That was a CVT joke...
he knew that, he just made one that was much funnier. the CVT is a type of automatic transmission.
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Thanks guys. I had a class 3 hitch & I plan on towing a travel trailer that comes in around 2200 lbs loaded. The patriot has the tow package from the factory. I plan on going slow & steady with it. I wanted peace of mind for the tounge weight & electric breaks on the trailer. The load leveling part cannot be installed I have been told because of the way the hitch mounts to the frame, on the side vice the top or bottom. Thanks again all.
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post #14 of 15 Old 01-23-2014, 04:43 PM
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On Class 3 hitch for lil bitty Patriot.

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That was a CVT joke...
It's not a TOTAL waste of $ placing a Class 3 hitch on the lil Patriot, it does fulfill its ability to carry a 300 lb tongue weight which a class 1 cannot do and a class 2 can kinda sorta maybe cross your fingers may do. As far as towing it will not increase what the patriot can tow. However... Hitches are not just for towing guys! I carry 4 rather heavy bikes on a heavy bike rack on that class 3 hitch, bikes are around 55 lbs each and bike rack is heavy as well. Although i'm not towing anything I am glad that the C3 hitch is back there and not trusting Chrysler's standard class 1. Do keep in mind though that the Patriot is the wee lil brother of the Jeep family and isn't out there to try and trailer real heavy stuff even with the c3 hitch. Also, not that its too significant, my Patriot is the "Trail rated" ver with added cooler and 4*4 F2, this adds a tiny lil bit more capability. Still, even with the bikes, I try to be careful ever aware that this is NOT a "real" off-road vehicle and I treat it nicely.
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post #15 of 15 Old 01-24-2014, 07:24 AM
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i'm fairly certain Chrysler's OEM hitch is a class 2, which would make it a 3,500 lb weight rating with a minimum 350 lb tongue weight. I too have a 4 bike thule rack that I leave permanently installed on my jeep, and it has never given me issues, outside of the installation itself (the mounting pin was the length of a 3" receiver, so getting it around the wiring harness was an issue).
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