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Unread 12-12-2006, 07:25 PM   #31
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I really like the Patriot so far. It's more like what I hoped the Liberty would be but the Lib ended up being too tall looking (like the Jeep Sahara). This is the first new jeep in awhile that I've wanted (other than the Wrangler Unlimited). I hope a 6-cyl option makes its way in though...

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Unread 12-30-2006, 10:00 PM   #32
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That the exact point everyones making.
Forget about the real off roaders,, cater to everyone who doesnt know anything about jeeps, and put them in a jeep.
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Unread 12-31-2006, 08:31 AM   #33
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That the exact point everyones making.
Forget about the real off roaders,, cater to everyone who doesnt know anything about jeeps, and put them in a jeep.
Are you directing this towards anyone in particular? We may never see another new vehicle as capable as the Wrangler (and Cherokee) - recent designs like the (bleh) Commander and Compass certainly seem to show this, but at least we can appreciate a decent aesthetic design... And at least people are still buying Jeeps. Jeez...
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Unread 01-13-2007, 12:20 PM   #34
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Well, I'm not that savy with corporate structures, but as I see it, divisions need to be indivudually profitable. The more customers that each division attracts (and not from other divisions, but from other automakers) the better off the whole company. Kev
Perhaps driving these 'overlapping product' decisions *more* than market research are the dealers themselves. As an example, the Dodge dealers were furious that Chrysler had the 300, but they were given a station wagon to offer customers (Magnum). As quickly as possible, the Charger was released which made the dealers happy. Dodge will have the advantage when the Challenger hits the showroom floors - I wonder what Chrysler will ask for? Another example is the Chrysler Aspen (and the Cadillac Escalade). Dealers want pieces of every significant market segment. They see what people want, and are a very good market research resource.

Also, Jeep is perhaps the most recognized brand in the domestic automobile industry, and there is a cult-following. Hundreds of thousands of people (myself included) are admitted "Jeep Wannabes" that understand they won't likely do any real off-roading. Additionally, I absolutely require respectable gas mileage, so these new breeds of Jeeps are exactly what I've been looking for. I wanna be part of the gang!
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Unread 01-22-2007, 05:49 PM   #35
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somewhere on tv i head they were Front wheel drive, is that true?
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Unread 01-22-2007, 06:40 PM   #36
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fwd or awd.
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Unread 01-22-2007, 06:44 PM   #37
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somewhere on tv i head they were Front wheel drive, is that true?
Or 4WD.

I've thought about one of these, but not as my '4x4'. I have a Nissan Sentra that I use as my DD, and I've thought about one of these as a DD replacement.

In that role, my requirements are:

1) Good Gas Milage, 25 MPG plus - CHECK
2) Decent cargo ability - 4 passengers plus luggage - CHECK
3) Good looks - CHECK

Additionally, something like a Patriot would allow me to use the DD in some other roles - it would make a nice camping vehicle, and I could drive it up north into inclement weather without difficulty. It isn't going to be a heavy tower, but I don't care, the Diesel KJ can handle that. It isn't going to be a hard-core off-roader, but that's OK, my TJ handles that, and the KJ isn't all that bad itself.

I think it's a great 2nd or 3rd Jeep in a 'Jeepin' family. It's pretty close to perfect for what I'm looking for, my only issue is that you can't get 'Freedom Drive II' with a Manual tranny. I think I've convinced myself that 'this Jeep' in my fleet doesn't need a Low Range (since I really don't expect to do 'heavy' wheeling in it), but it still bothers me a bit.

For the record, I've convinced myself that I don't need a low range because of the KJ. I don't think it's ever been in 4Low. The TJ is all the time, but I just don't take the KJ that far off road, and while I can see that changing (I want my Wife to wheel it), I can't see it changing TWICE, and both the KJ and the TJ are vehicles we intend to retain for a very long time.
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Unread 01-23-2007, 01:54 PM   #38
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somewhere on tv i head they were Front wheel drive, is that true?
From the looks of it... The Jeep Patriot, when equipt with the Freedom Drive II, is FWD, RWD, AWD, and 4WD!

Check out how they explain this on the Jeep Site.

Click the link and select 'See How Jeep 4x4 Systems Work' under the 'GET READY' tab on the left. When that loads, select 'CLICK TO EXPLORE' for the Freedom-Drive II in the lower right. (sorry I can't link directly to it)
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Unread 01-24-2007, 01:56 PM   #39
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From the looks of it... The Jeep Patriot, when equipt with the Freedom Drive II, is FWD, RWD, AWD, and 4WD!

Looking at both, the FD1 and FD2 work basically the same exact way. It seems the only difference is that the FD2 has the ability to go into a lower gear ratio for crawling or climbing.
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Unread 01-29-2007, 12:32 PM   #40
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Hm. Where's the JeepXterra decal?
here ya go

sorry its not the exact font, i had to do it fast, im at work
i might lift it higher, and change the color too, later
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Unread 01-29-2007, 12:38 PM   #41
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here ya go

sorry its not the exact font, i had to do it fast, im at work
i might lift it higher, and change the color too, later
bronze rubicon rims on a copper patriot = HOTT!!!!
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Unread 01-29-2007, 12:43 PM   #42
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bronze rubicon rims on a copper patriot = HOTT!!!!
we'll see..........
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Unread 01-29-2007, 09:41 PM   #43
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that doesnt look that bad I kind of like it.
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Unread 01-31-2007, 09:36 PM   #44
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where is it?
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Unread 02-01-2007, 12:50 AM   #45
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Bridgman...

You may want to invert the "o" and the "i" on the roof rack...
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