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Unread 02-21-2010, 06:19 PM   #46
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I agree that they are looking after Chrysler's interests and not mine. It irritates me that they keep trying to haggle with me over their mileage deduction amount. First they started with $6700, then they go down to $3400 and now they said they would see if they could go lower and would call me back on Monday. This is ridiculous. Where do the pull these numbers from? Once this is over I will never buy another Chrysler product in my life, because of how they have NOT taken care of me. I previously bought 3 new Chrysler products (2002 Dodge Ram, 2007 Dodge Ram and this junker 2008 Jeep Patriot). I had also owned a couple used Chrysler products (1992 Dodge Shadow and 1999 Dodge Intrepid). As I said before, I do not mind waiting. I will use the Jeep Patriot, adding mileage and pay it down some more. They will still have to give me either a new 2010 vehicle or pay off the original purchase price and pay my lawyer. Either way it is a win/win for me just for waiting.

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Unread 09-29-2010, 04:28 PM   #47
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water leak

My girlfriend just bought a 2010 Patriot and water is leaking in from the front dome light! what can i do to fix it???!!!
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Unread 09-29-2010, 05:05 PM   #48
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Go back to post 23 to see how to do it yourself but since you are still under warranty I'd head back to the dealer.
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Unread 09-30-2010, 10:19 AM   #49
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I agree with gramps, head to the dealer. I had this issue on my 07. Had to do a buy back. Dont let the dealer ack surprised by your leak. It is well documented. There is also at least one TSB on leaks and how to attempt a repair. Mine was leaking from the sun roof seal. All parts were changed more than once with no luck. Yes I could have sealed the hell out all welded seams myself and stoped the leak. But after the head liner was removed and reinstalled several times, it was starting to look like a beater. And for over 20K. Dont get me wrong. I love Jeeps. Have 3 in the yard now. Swaped the 07 Pat for a 08 Wrangler Unlimited. Just hold their feet to the fire and get everything in writing. Also pay close attention to how the work order is written. If you go more than once for the same thing, the wording has to describe the defect exactly. I went as far as reading what the service advisor was writing before printing the work order. Sorry to be so long winded but I had to share.
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Unread 09-30-2010, 08:24 PM   #50
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Tuesday, after a very hard rain, my wife came home to tell me our '08 Compass had water leaking from the front dome light. We've had the vehicle for three years with no problems. We immediately took it to the dealer, who said they would work on it first thing in the morning. They said it was probably a plugged drain tube. When we picked it up yesterday I asked to speak with the tech. He said the drain tubes were clear, but that the sunroof needed to be adjusted. He said that would take care of the problem. The repair was covered under our warranty, which expires at the end of October. Hasn't rained to check the repair so we'll be taking it to the pressure wash soon.
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Unread 11-01-2011, 03:57 PM   #51
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Jeep lawsuit over water leaks

We are currently investigating claims from owners of 2006-2011 Jeep Patriot, Liberty, Compass, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and Commanders that have had sunroof leaking problems that have not been repaired. Many drivers don't know that this problem is well known to Chrysler and its agents, who have refused to address and correct the faulty drainage tubes, claiming that the leaks result from other non-Chrysler factors and not covered under warranty. However, between 1999 and 2010 Chrysler issued no less than NINE Technical Service Bulletins addressing the issue of faulty drainage tubes and water leaks.

The leaks can cause the following physical damages:

• Degradation of structural components, wiring and passenger cabin;
• Shorts in the electrical circuitry;
• Engine stalls;
• Instrument malfunctions in seat and window controls;
• Standing water on floors and mats leading to degradation of floor carpeting and sub-structure;
• Water stains;
• Hazardous mold and mildew, with associated smells;
• Dampened and damaged interior seats and headrests;
• Weakened components and structures; and
• Rust.

If you have experienced this problem please reply or send me an email at jkincannon@keefebartels.com. Thanks all and thanks to the webmaster for maintaining such a comprehensive site.
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Unread 02-24-2012, 11:25 PM   #52
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What I have found to be a problem on most of these sunroof leaks is this:

The exit spouts in the front. They make a 90* turn, which isn't a good thing.

They have a casting flap or something inside them, and there is a '+' shape to it....in other words, it was a solid wall, preventing flow, and the plus was stamped into it, leaving 4 little flaps that the water is supposed to push open and flow out.

Well, that doesn't work too well. They restrict flow terribly. They get stopped up easily.

What I did to start with, was remove them, and use needle nose pliers, and pull off the flaps left after the + was stamped, thereby opening the hole permanently. That made a big difference. Still wasn't happy with the flow speed.

So as I kept doing them, I finally just removed the exit spouts totally, and extended the tubes at the ends and let the drain tubes run straight out through the firewall. THAT did it. They flow better than any drain on any Chrysler product at that point. Let me tell you, the driver's side is TURRIBLE (as Charles Barkley would say) to access, but you can do it.

Since the exit spout doubles as a grommet that seals up the hole, I used 3M Ribbon sealer and used it to seal the drain tube to the hole. You can form it sort of like clay, but it's a lot stickier.

Once the tubes are extended out the firewall with no 90* exit spout, you can pour water in the sunroof trough and you'll literally get a slurping sound as the water makes its way out in a hurry. Any good sunroof drain system should make this sound if it's working well. None of these vehicles will, even when new.

What I've found over the years, is that Chrysler allows a lot looser tolerance around the sunroof glass, allowing more water to pass by the seal than any other manufacturer I've seen.
This means that the drain system needs to be in top working order, or you WILL have a leak...because even if the drains are flowing somewhat, the sunroof will let more water in than the drains can flow. They don't have to be totally stopped up, just a little restricted, and it's possible to have a leak.

This loose tolerance also makes adjusting the sunroof glass pretty tough. I can take any Ford/GM/Nissan/Toyota/anything else sunroof glass out, reinstall it, and to adjust it just simply reach my arm out the window to touch the top of the sunroof glass..adjust it until it's flush with the roof, tighten it down and walk away. Done.
Not so with a Chrysler. Many times I've seen the optimal adjustment height of the glass to be below flush. When I adjust a problem Chrysler sunroof, I sit in the vehicle as water is flowing over the roof, and adjust it while I watch how much is getting by, and get it to where to least is passing the seal.

On some models, Chrysler used to not sell the seal separately, only with an entire new glass. (ridiculous) Now they have updated seals that fit a LOT tighter for several models.

And if you haven't figured it out already, I am a water leak/wind noise/sunroof repair specialist/dealership vendor. Just thought I'd share some of what I've seen with these.
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Unread 02-25-2012, 08:20 AM   #53
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Pacfanweb - Thank you for the input!!
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Unread 12-10-2012, 09:17 PM   #54
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Okay...after reading all the nigtmarish stories about leaky patriots, how concerned to I need to be? Three weeks ago I purchased an 07 Limited with 80k miles and all seemed to be fine. It is very clean, tight and quiet - runs very well. Yesterday, after it sat outside overnight in the rain, the front dome light was dripping water when I started it up to drive off. Did not have a leak until I drove off, probably sloshing it in the tray. First thing this morning, I took it to my local Jeep dealership, where they promptly took my $150 and told me I needed a new sunroof glass (another $500). Asked if they could just replace the seal - stated it is not a service item. Also informed me that they DID check the drain tubes and they seemed to be flowing properly. I intend on getting a second opinion at another dealership (hopefully it won't cost me another $150!). Shall I suck it up, and replace the glass, or wave the white flag and unload this Jeep ASAP? I've owned an 02 Liberty and a 97 Grand Cherokee and neither had this issue with the sunroofs.

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Unread 12-11-2012, 09:04 AM   #55
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Tuesday, after a very hard rain, my wife came home to tell me our '08 Compass had water leaking from the front dome light. We've had the vehicle for three years with no problems. We immediately took it to the dealer, who said they would work on it first thing in the morning. They said it was probably a plugged drain tube. When we picked it up yesterday I asked to speak with the tech. He said the drain tubes were clear, but that the sunroof needed to be adjusted. He said that would take care of the problem. The repair was covered under our warranty, which expires at the end of October. Hasn't rained to check the repair so we'll be taking it to the pressure wash soon.
dsferg, I posted this two years ago. We haven't had a drop of water since then. Have the dealer check the adjustment , that worked for us.
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Unread 12-11-2012, 09:55 AM   #56
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Thanks jacko15. I understand that the glass is supposed to be biased to the font; It should sit about 1-2 mm below the sheet metal (roof) at the front, and about 1-2 mm above the sheet metal at the rear. Mine looks like it's flush both front and rear. That could certainy be the issue.

Thanks, I'll see what the dealer says.
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Unread 12-31-2012, 10:50 AM   #57
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Leaky Sunroof?

Hello, I have read all the posts about leaky sunroofs, I think I have an issue also but I do not see any water leaking from the dome light. I do not see any water on the head liner but the back carpets are soaked and there is moister behind the front seat-belt pillars. Should I suspect this is the same issues and possible remedies as if there was water out of the dome light? Thanks in advance.
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