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Unread 02-24-2008, 06:36 AM   #16
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There is no disputing the fact that KUHawkhead had a major Quality issue with his Patriot and there have been other Patriot owners that have had similar issues. As of right now Chrysler has not considered it to be a big enough problem to warrant either a Recall or even a TSB. This problem does appear to be confined to the Patriot and does not involve the Compass or Caliber assembled at the same plant. The only TSB released to date involves the Sunroof on all of them.

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Unread 02-24-2008, 07:00 AM   #17
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As far as the CVT lack of performance, most likely if it was on a lot, then it did not have the performance flash yet. It is supposed to help quite a bit, my caliber can haul *** without it though due to a not very helpful dealer...
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Unread 02-24-2008, 07:39 AM   #18
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The flash that my friend mentioned is for those vehicles built before April 21, 2007. Look on the drivers door for the production date.

Launch Performance / Drive-ability Enhancements

I have had mine Flashed, build date 06/06, and I have absolutely NO problem pulling out from a stop, passing or anything else except maybe losing a street race which it wasn't designed to win in the first place.

Your original question was "Is there any common problems that you should be aware of?" You can probably find the best list in the TSB link mentioned previously. There have been a variety of "one off" problems that either were resolved or didn't reappear. Overall I think that most owners are pleased with how theirs perform and many have their opinions on what could be improvements.

A big plus is their great value with all of the electronic driveability enhancements compared to other things in the same category. Certainly rain, snow and ice are hardly more than an inconvenience as opposed to a white knuckle experience. They're very reasonable on mpg, quite roomy for their size and have great manuvarability.

You're always going to find some sour grapes somewhere, just like the guy on the Caliber Forums that now HATES Dodge because his RAQ radio won't eject the #2 disc. It takes all kinds!
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Unread 02-24-2008, 07:55 AM   #19
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Let me set the record straight on the Patriot...I loved that vehicle. I still notice them everytime I drive by a Jeep lot, and see them out running the streets here in Kansas. However, with the wife being a 50/50 partner on the vehicles we own, we opted for the LIberty as a replacement due to two things:1) more room 2) Sky slider. I've never seen my wife fall in love with a feature like that before.

I will not "dis" Patriots or their owners as they are quality vehicles, that fill the need for offroaders who want to try and feel enviornmentally responsible. The CVT and 4 cylinder engine take some getting used to. Assaults on other vehicles must be planned, and it takes some getting used to watching the tach scream into the red everytime you hit resume on the cruise control. With the lifetime power train warranty, that feature made me a little less nervous, but I feel that a lot of Patriots will be one owner for a long time vehicles because of that.

Just trying to let everyone know how I feel.
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Unread 02-25-2008, 07:41 AM   #20
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Again, thanks for all the input.

I had the opportunity to test drive a Patriot with a 5-spd in it, and compared to the CVT Compass back in August, this was like night and day. The vehicle now moved around like it should. I don't know if the Compass had this flash you all speak of, but we really love driving manual so we won't even bother looking into that now.

The test drive was great compared to before because there's still snow on the ground. I took the Patriot out to a near-by parking lot and threw it around on the ice. The ABS worked like any other vehicle, but going from either my Ford Escort ZX2, or her VW New Beetle, that AWD/4WD is what I was looking for! I even drove through some deep snow just to see how it handled it, and it was hardly an effort.

So now I'm 100% settled. We prefer the looks of the Compass, and although the dealership didn't have an AWD 5-spd on hand, I'm confident the two would drive and react the same.

Now we just work on getting a good deal and getting a decent amount on a trade for our two high-mileage cars.
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Unread 02-27-2008, 03:04 PM   #21
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Back to the original question...

I bought my Compass back in May 07 and I love it. At first I was also concerned about the acceleration but found after it was "worn in" it picked up much better. And of course, like said before, it does take some getting used to. One thing I am looking into now is a lift kit. I would like a little more clearance. From my understanding the Compass also gets better gas mileage than the Patriot. Unfortunately I don't really drive on the highway, so I can't give you the mileage there, but I get between 22-24 mpg around town and I live at 7400 ft in CO. It's been an AMAZING car in the snow. I highly recommend it.
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Unread 02-28-2008, 07:37 PM   #22
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My wife and I bought an 08 Compass because we had to. After test driving the Compass, nothing I drove felt the same. I've never owned a 4X4 before and this was the best car decision I ever made.

Tonight we had snow and blowing snow. In my old Protege I would have been a nervous wreck driving around in that kind of weather (Winnipeg is the winter capital of Canada) but with the Compass it felt like I was driving on a summer road. Love the vehicle.
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Unread 02-29-2008, 07:51 AM   #23
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My wife and I bought an 08 Compass because we had to. After test driving the Compass, nothing I drove felt the same. I've never owned a 4X4 before and this was the best car decision I ever made.

Tonight we had snow and blowing snow. In my old Protege I would have been a nervous wreck driving around in that kind of weather (Winnipeg is the winter capital of Canada) but with the Compass it felt like I was driving on a summer road. Love the vehicle.
Ah! A fellow Winnipegger! Yes, this snow we recently had is driving me nuts now, more-so than before. I just arrived at work after being dropped off by my wife. Her '99 VW Beetle could barely move, yet remembering how well the Patriot did that I test drove, I was sure craving the new car very badly.

Arono, is your Compass a 5-speed or a CVT?
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Ah! A fellow Winnipegger! Yes, this snow we recently had is driving me nuts now, more-so than before. I just arrived at work after being dropped off by my wife. Her '99 VW Beetle could barely move, yet remembering how well the Patriot did that I test drove, I was sure craving the new car very badly.

Arono, is your Compass a 5-speed or a CVT?
Right on a fellow 'Pegger. Ours is a CVT. You know yesterday was snowing and today was mucky. The Compass drives like it's on a summer road. In 4X4 you can tear away from a light while other car tires are just spinning.

I live near the Grant Park Shopping Centre. What area of town are you in?

I'll PM you where we bought our Jeep. We got our new 2008 Compass for less money than another dearlership wanted for a new 2007 and we got heated seats to boot and I think the other Compass didn't have satelitte radio and ours does. One model year newer for less money.
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I live near the Grant Park Shopping Centre. What area of town are you in?

I'll PM you where we bought our Jeep. We got our new 2008 Compass for less money than another dearlership wanted for a new 2007 and we got heated seats to boot and I think the other Compass didn't have satelitte radio and ours does. One model year newer for less money.
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Unread 03-02-2008, 12:08 PM   #26
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Update: My wife and I ordered our new Jeep yesterday! We had to do the order method because it appears to be REALLY hard to find a 5-speed Compass with all the options we want. It's going to be a long 6-8 weeks. haha
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Unread 03-31-2008, 07:43 AM   #27
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I just bought a 2007 patriot limited. it has the off road package. ive only owned it for 2 days, and already it has to go back to the dealership!! when i go to shift out of park, it doesn't shift. we can't figure out why, but thanks to this forum, we know it's a common problem. my dealership said they've never heard of such a problem. also, when i reverse down a hill, it makes a loud noise, as if something is rubbing, but that could be something that the off road package does. im waiting for my salesman to call me back to let me know when to take it in!! im SOOOOOO aggrevated. this is something i was not prepared to deal with two days after buying it!
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I just bought a 2007 patriot limited. it has the off road package. ive only owned it for 2 days, and already it has to go back to the dealership!! when i go to shift out of park, it doesn't shift. we can't figure out why, but thanks to this forum, we know it's a common problem. my dealership said they've never heard of such a problem. also, when i reverse down a hill, it makes a loud noise, as if something is rubbing, but that could be something that the off road package does. im waiting for my salesman to call me back to let me know when to take it in!! im SOOOOOO aggrevated. this is something i was not prepared to deal with two days after buying it!
Backing up, mine makes racket, it has to do with the brakes adjusting when backing up. Mine even does it on flat ground, and it is NOT Patriot or Jeep limited, as it does it on my Caliber, and my Wrangler does it to a lesser extent. As far as the shift problem, never heard of it before. Mine banged and jerked really hard the other day when shifting into reverse on flat ground. Not quite sure what it was, and it hasn't repeated itself.
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Unread 04-01-2008, 07:53 AM   #29
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I've had zero problems at 4500 miles. I'm sorry to hear about the roof leak for the one person, but they did indeed give the full purchase price back which is a pretty nice thing to do. You're always going to find problems with new designs (trust me, I'm an electrical engineer, you can't find all hidden problems!). It's more about how they deal with it when they do occur.

That being said, a new car for one, and a lifetime powertrain for those who's car makes that noise... I'm still sold for what you get.... drives like a dream and almost 100% fully loaded for numbers at or below 25k, how can you beat it? There is obviously going to be some cheap spots for the low price (you can always get the grand cherokee with the same stuff for $10k more and 5mpg less!)

I love my '07 FDI 4x4, GPS/6disk, sunroof, leather, limited patriot!
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