Originally Posted by jeep3950
We own a TJ Wrangler and my inlaws own a TJ (dad drives) and a '01 Cherokee Sport (mom drives). The Cherokee has over 150k on it and they are looking to replace it with hopefully another Jeep. She wanted something that is as close to her beloved Cherokee as possible so we are looking at the Patriot. I can talk to you all day about the reliability of the 4.0 (in all ours now) but I know nothing about the Patriot or the CVT trans.
-What is the general consensus about drivetrain reliability?
-Loaded up with the grandkids and gear, does it have enough power to get out of it's own way?
-Is this the same engine (2.4) that the newer wrangler owners complained about?
-What can we expect in MPG?
Any info is greatly appreciated. They are looking at a new 2013 4x4. BTW, hopefully I can get my hands on the Cherokee when they get a new one. It's in great shape, but they are worried about it because of the miles. I agreed with them about the 'miles' and told them I would do them a 'favor' and 'take it off their hands'..hehe.
Having owned 3 cherokees and a grand cherokee, and now driving a patriot, I can say unquivicaly, unless your cherokee is giving you trouble, keep it. The partiot doesnt hold a candle to a cherokee, in power, comfort, or room. Milage will be a little better, but IMO, not enough to make up for the downsides.... 150K on a cherokee is nothing. If it has the 6 cylinder and automatic, it will go 250K easy, then you rebuild it and do it again....
I VERY much regret letting my wife talk me into letter her trade in her grand cherokee on the patriot, and so does she at this point....
Its not that the patriot is a "bad" vehichle, its just that, well, its no cherokee.
Its reliable, and I have never had a lick of trouble from the CVT. Mine is a 2008, and so far I have had to replace the alternator clutch, A/C clutch (the whole unit actualy since you cant get just the clutch, but the clutch is all that went bad) both inner tie rods, and one wheel bearing. Thats 2 or $3K at dealer prices, but doing the work myself I am into repairs around $500 plus 20 or so hours of my time....
It has plenty of power once you get going, but power off the line is.... lacking....
Tell your mom to do herself a favor and keep the cherokee.... or better, upgrade to a 2004 grand cherokee with the 6 cyl and auto.... :D
My patriot with FDII and all the whiz bang traction control is ALMOST as capable off road as a bone stock cherokee, IMO...
Originally Posted by FujativeOCR
I dont like the slow throttle response. It's really snappy at low speeds from on power to off power or off to on again. Very annoying.
Thats one of my peeves with my patriot too. Its not due to the CVT, but rather the electronic throttle. Another thing that annoys me about the electronic throttle is when you set the cruise control and take your foot off the throttle, it comes back all the way, where with a normal mechanical throttle it stays down, so that when you have to cancel cruise, you dont have to "find" where the throttle is at.... a minor annoyance, but one I think about every time....