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Unread 06-04-2007, 07:44 AM   #1
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Headlight upgrades for Compass?

My father just bought a Limited Edition Compass recently and both my mother and father love it! The only complaint is that the headlights are terrible. If my father has to drive at night, he uses his 1998 Cherokee because the headlights are much better and my mother uses her 2001 Grand Cherokee.

This is the first "nice" Jeep my father has bought for himself because he travels over 100 miles a day to work and never wanted anything new that he wouldn't want to rack up the miles on. Now that he will be retiring soon, he bit the bullet and bought the Compass. Since they don't know anything about aftermarket parts and doing any work on vehicles yourself, I figured I'd surprise them with better headlights for the Compass. I haven't had a chance to look into what lights are currently in the vehicle and what my options are.

I would assume I could throw in a set of Osram Silverstar bulbs. Are there any actual kits out yet? Like a Hella/Piaa housing? Since I sold my Jeep almost 2 years ago and got a 2006 WRX, I haven't been on these boards that much... unfortunately. I really like it here, it's much friendlier than the clowns on Nasioc.com

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Unread 06-04-2007, 09:00 AM   #2
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Best bet is probably to hold out. More aftermarket options will probably be available once you get a few more compasses out there! Just replacing the bulbs with better ones would probably be a great temporary fix though!
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Unread 06-04-2007, 09:36 AM   #3
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Sorry, this one really throws me. These are some of the best stock headlights that I've ever had! I put some 9000K bulbs in the wife's '96 GC and she said that it was an improvement for it but mine were still better. She traded that in a month or so ago on a '03 GC and says that mine are still better.

How does everybody else rate their headlights?
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Unread 06-04-2007, 09:48 AM   #4
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I have yet to drive it myself at night but both of them say that the headlights are terrible. I will have to take a look myself now that you say they're pretty good.

FYI, 9000k bulbs will put out less light than her stock bulbs did originally. Once you go above 4500K or so, the light seems "brighter" or bluer, but puts out less light. Like the cheezy Honda Civics cruising around with bright blue headlights... don't put out much light at all and are worse than stock. Take a look at www.DanielSternLighting.com for more information.
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Unread 06-04-2007, 10:04 AM   #5
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Thanks, that's good to know on the "color". I had heard something along those lines but couldn't find a good answer. The wife wanted "white" and these were listed as "Arctic White" so that's my reasoning for going to those. At least they weren't yellow and gave her better "perception"! I'm not trying to say that there isn't room for improvement for those who may want/need it, but for me they're great. Sounds like your parents are close to the same age bracket that the wife and I are in, 60 +/- 3 years. I'm curious to see what you think of them.

Good link, btw!
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Unread 06-04-2007, 10:30 AM   #6
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Not a problem. There is a balance between the color and the brightness of bulbs. The "bluer/whiter" means less light output but because of the color, it seems as if it is brighter but the light output is much less since there is a film/tint on the bulb in order to give it that color. Everyone wants the HID look so they go out and buy a set of blue bulbs, which is a mistake. Get a set of Osram Silverstars (I'm considering them now as well). They're popular in the Subaru community as well. The Sylvania Silverstars are tinted and put out much less light but have the "blue" look that most people look for. So when you go above 4500k, you're actually worse off than when you had your stock bulbs in.

Glad I could help!
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I've driven the wifes Compass to work a few times while I was on 3rd shift (11 Pm till 7 AM) and I found I wanted a bit more brightness out of them (and we do have the driving/fog lights). Other than that things were fine, no worse than my Dakota pickup.

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Unread 06-04-2007, 11:30 AM   #8
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What size bulbs come stock in the Compass? I'm just going to order a set of Osram Silverstars or GE Nighthawks as soon as I figure out which size bulb I need.
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Unread 06-04-2007, 11:37 AM   #9
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What size bulbs come stock in the Compass? I'm just going to order a set of Osram Silverstars or GE Nighthawks as soon as I figure out which size bulb I need.
Headlights - H13

Fog lights for those who want to know are 9145/H10.
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It seems that Daniel Stern is on vacation until the 13th. Anyone know where I can order a set of H13 bulbs?
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I'm not recommending eBay but it's a good place to browse. Quite a few listing there.
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Unread 06-04-2007, 12:46 PM   #12
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eh... I checked, it's a bunch of the "cool blue" and "hyper white" bulbs that are 12,000k and light the road like a keychain flashlight lol

I'm looking for either Osram Silverstar (not Sylvania) or GE Nighthawk.
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Unread 06-04-2007, 02:34 PM   #13
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Alright... now I'm not trying to be mean, but when I first drove the compass at night, I didn't realize it did NOT have automatic lights like all my past cars have... I quickly realized this and turned on the lights.

Are you sure they aren't just driving at night with only the daytime running lights? Make sure they are actually turning on the lights.

That was the one big surprise for me when we chose the compass... but that could explain the problem!
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Are you sure they aren't just driving at night with only the daytime running lights? Make sure they are actually turning on the lights.
That would account for the "terrible" vs "best stock" ratings. The daylight headlight system is a reduced power High Beam.

So eighteenwheeler, how do you rate them?
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I like mine, but I have of course different projectors and headlight shapes than you all... I highly recommend Sylvania Silverstars, they are much better than the old Wagners that were in my Wrangler originally. Caliber owners are having problems being bright lighted by drivers not used to such bright (er) lights.
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