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Unread 06-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #16
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I just bought a 2012 Jeep Patriot where I expected a minimum of 19 mpg city and having filled it 5 times am getting an average of 14.1 . The dealership and Chrystler both say too bad, that is the government rating not ours. So now I not only have a payment, but I get no better mileage than the jeep Grand Cherokee that was paid for and traded in.

Anyone at all have any suggestions?

The vehicle has 450 miles on it and every half tank I only get 80 miles. This sucks.
Yeah I can tell you exactly how to get better mpg's but you'd look at me crazy so I'll keep to myself.Anyways your only at 450 miles,you don't get to complain yet till you hit at least 10,000miles and still get the same.

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Unread 06-06-2012, 07:38 PM   #17
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You may not have a oil comsumption issue,to properly check the oil level you must be on a level surface and wait at least 30mins after shutting the engine off before getting a accurate reading the dipstick.

As for the mpg's don't expect anywhere close to advertized ratings till you hit at least 10,000 miles and your driving habits and gas quality comes into play after that.
While I completely agree with you on your oil checking comments I have to say I completely disagree with you on the comments that you need 10K for MPG to come close to advertised MPG #'s. While I do agree that the MPG will usually go up a little when the engine/drivetrain fully breaks in( does not take 10K though )I disagree that you can't see the advertised MPG #'s or even exceed them. It is all about how you drive really.

A vehicle should still get the advertised MPG even if brand new as long as you drive conservatively which mirrors the rating test proceedures. Also, remember that the ratings are not just the 2 bold numbers but rather, as another member pointed out, the small print will state they can vary by a few MPG either way depending on driving style. So the bold city MPG rating may be 22 but the fine print can state as low as say 18 and as high as say 24 or 25. The bold number is just the average MPG and not a guarantee.

I meet and usually exceed the EPA ratings on my vehicles and I don't need 10K to do so. Pretty much from day one or within the 1st couple tanks. Currently I have a 2011 Patriot Latitude( 2.4L, CVT, 4WD, FD1 ). The EPA rating is 21/26. I have easily exceeded those numbers since day 1 with the vehicle( hand calculated so accurate #'s ).

The 21 MPG rating for all city is about right if it is 100% city. I see 21-22 all city. If I have some highway thrown in I see 23-26 MPG depending on the mix ratio of city to highway. If my trip is all highway( 90-100% ) I have seen the following MPG returns...

28.9( had 370 miles on OD )
34.7( had 1400 miles on OD - *highest to date )
28.7( had 3200 miles on OD )
30.6( had 4050 miles on OD )
30.5( had 5100 miles on OD )
31.8( had 5650 miles on OD )
32.2( had 6200 miles on OD )

So far and away above the 26 average rating for me on higwhay driving and I only have approx 6500 on the vehicle( 1 year old in Aug ). The best MPG I have seen to date came with just 1400 kmiles on the vehicle. The absolute worst MPG I have seen is high 19's. That is when I have towed my duck boat. Not only is it towing( 1700lbs +/- )but it is during winter so cold temps and winter gas which hurt MPG.

IMO if the OP drives conseravtively then the MPG being seen is low.
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Unread 06-14-2012, 08:28 AM   #18
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My wife's 2012 Patriot get 24 MPG and she's got a lead foot.
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Unread 06-14-2012, 03:13 PM   #19
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While I completely agree with you on your oil checking comments I have to say I completely disagree with you on the comments that you need 10K for MPG to come close to advertised MPG #'s. While I do agree that the MPG will usually go up a little when the engine/drivetrain fully breaks in( does not take 10K though )I disagree that you can't see the advertised MPG #'s or even exceed them. It is all about how you drive really.

A vehicle should still get the advertised MPG even if brand new as long as you drive conservatively which mirrors the rating test proceedures. Also, remember that the ratings are not just the 2 bold numbers but rather, as another member pointed out, the small print will state they can vary by a few MPG either way depending on driving style. So the bold city MPG rating may be 22 but the fine print can state as low as say 18 and as high as say 24 or 25. The bold number is just the average MPG and not a guarantee.

I meet and usually exceed the EPA ratings on my vehicles and I don't need 10K to do so. Pretty much from day one or within the 1st couple tanks. Currently I have a 2011 Patriot Latitude( 2.4L, CVT, 4WD, FD1 ). The EPA rating is 21/26. I have easily exceeded those numbers since day 1 with the vehicle( hand calculated so accurate #'s ).

The 21 MPG rating for all city is about right if it is 100% city. I see 21-22 all city. If I have some highway thrown in I see 23-26 MPG depending on the mix ratio of city to highway. If my trip is all highway( 90-100% ) I have seen the following MPG returns...

28.9( had 370 miles on OD )
34.7( had 1400 miles on OD - *highest to date )
28.7( had 3200 miles on OD )
30.6( had 4050 miles on OD )
30.5( had 5100 miles on OD )
31.8( had 5650 miles on OD )
32.2( had 6200 miles on OD )

So far and away above the 26 average rating for me on higwhay driving and I only have approx 6500 on the vehicle( 1 year old in Aug ). The best MPG I have seen to date came with just 1400 kmiles on the vehicle. The absolute worst MPG I have seen is high 19's. That is when I have towed my duck boat. Not only is it towing( 1700lbs +/- )but it is during winter so cold temps and winter gas which hurt MPG.

IMO if the OP drives conseravtively then the MPG being seen is low.
Good post!

I just filled my patriot for the first time and calculated 26mpg with 25% highway driving and 75% side roads & city. Since my jeep came with a full tank of gas and a reset odometer I don't even think it was reset when it was filled up so that would equate to me getting more miles per gallon then I calculated on my first tank of gas.
Mine is a 2.4 5spd 4x4.
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Unread 06-24-2012, 08:12 AM   #20
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Hi All,
even i own a 2008 Patriot Sport (4x4, 5speed, 40,000 miles) the consumption in summer using summer tires is about 26 mpg.
In winter using winter tires about 24.7 mpg.
I drive every day 9.3 miles for work (25% city 31mph, 50% highway 75 mph, 25% country road 62 mph). So a very short way and in winter the engine just reaches working temperature.
The oil comsumption is less than 0.5 quarts for 7,500 miles.

The MPG is going down the last years. At the beginning it was 28 - 27 mpg in summer and 26 mpg in winter.
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Unread 06-26-2012, 04:18 PM   #21
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my first 3 tanks of gas are as follows:

26mpg
24mpg
27mpg

On my second tank of gas where I got 24mpg I drove it a little harder. I backed off quite a bit for my third tank of gas and it made a big difference. I kept it under 70mph on the highway and under 60mph on regular roads, and didn't stand on the gas from stop light to stop light... I didn't drive super slow but I made an effort to drive conservatively.
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Unread 06-27-2012, 08:57 AM   #22
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I just posted this about oil consumption: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/s...013-a-1386228/
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Unread 07-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #23
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Yeah my 2011 only gets about 180 per tank of city driving. My fiance has been driving it the last month and she's averaged 16.4. Window sticker says 20. I hypermile it and get about 18 city keeping it under 2,000 rpm. For highway driving my mileage is screwed if the speed limit is over 60. Mine has 11,000 miles on it now and no noticeable improvement over new.
This thread is a bit discouraging, anyone with a 2011-2012 actually getting 23mpg or better? Looking into a altitude for the fiancÚ but might look into wrangler . & 180 miles per tank is depressing. Whats the size of the tank? Thanks guys
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Unread 07-08-2012, 02:42 PM   #24
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This thread is a bit discouraging, anyone with a 2011-2012 actually getting 23mpg or better? Looking into a altitude for the fiancÚ but might look into wrangler . & 180 miles per tank is depressing. Whats the size of the tank? Thanks guys
The tank on a 2012 is 13.6 gallons.

Here are the Patriots that are tracked at fuelly.com.
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Unread 07-08-2012, 02:58 PM   #25
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If you get one without the off road Freedom Drive 2 package the mileage should be better than mine. I finally figured this out a couple days ago, but with FD2, the engine/tranny is going to be spinning about 30% faster at all speeds than without it. Because of the final drive ratio (differential gears I guess), mine runs at 3200 rpm at 75 mph, whereas the regular FD1 CVT should be about 2400, thus better mpg.
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Unread 07-08-2012, 03:17 PM   #26
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If you get one without the off road Freedom Drive 2 package the mileage should be better than mine. I finally figured this out a couple days ago, but with FD2, the engine/tranny is going to be spinning about 30% faster at all speeds than without it. Because of the final drive ratio (differential gears I guess), mine runs at 3200 rpm at 75 mph, whereas the regular FD1 CVT should be about 2400, thus better mpg.
this is right from the Horses mouth, but it appears that FD2 is not offered on the Altitude? Can anyone else confirm this? Were interested in some offroad capability for it might have to consider latitude with altitude feature? Suggestions? thanks
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Unread 07-08-2012, 03:21 PM   #27
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ok just tried building a Latitude but no feature to add Altitude styling...The plot thickens is the FD1 Pretty capable of sand and snow? Perhaps they haven't updated their site? the Altitude does have the CVT2 so doesn't that mean it has FD2? Thanks again
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Unread 07-08-2012, 03:32 PM   #28
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ok just tried building a Latitude but no feature to add Altitude styling...The plot thickens is the FD1 Pretty capable of sand and snow? Perhaps they haven't updated their site? the Altitude does have the CVT2 so doesn't that mean it has FD2? Thanks again
The CVT2 is NOT the FDII.
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Unread 07-08-2012, 03:39 PM   #29
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Should say...CVT2"L" that comes with FD2. At least thats how I recall it being packaged?
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Ok thanks something to consider if it doesn't have FD2, surprised they don't offer it, I anyone else knows better speak up thanks
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