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Unread 10-31-2006, 12:39 PM   #1
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Fog Lamp Replacement

How do you get to the back of the fog lights to change the bulb?

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Unread 10-31-2006, 12:44 PM   #2
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Lynn,

Shouldn't that be a warranty replacement? I'm waiting for the Service Manual to come out, maybe around Christmas time.

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Unread 10-31-2006, 01:05 PM   #3
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If it failed yes ... but I just want to replace the OEM lamps with ones that are yellow .... I have the new lamps, just need to figure out how to get in there and change them. I have the Caliber manual and it says to access it from the opening on the underside of the facia .. but there is no opening on the Compass. I'll have to look harder at how to get in there.
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Unread 11-04-2006, 05:31 PM   #4
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You think they're yellow? I'm very impressed with the light output of the Compass. It's WAY better than any vehicle I've ever owned. The headlights are great, I don't use the fogs that often, but they're good too.

http://www.MyJeepCompass.com
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Unread 11-05-2006, 06:37 AM   #5
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You think they're yellow? I'm very impressed with the light output of the Compass. It's WAY better than any vehicle I've ever owned. The headlights are great, I don't use the fogs that often, but they're good too.

http://www.MyJeepCompass.com

Pretty sure that lynnk WANTS the clear fog lights replaced with yellow ones.
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Unread 11-06-2006, 06:01 PM   #6
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Yea.... I wanted to change out the original "white" fog lamps for some yellow ones. Found the H-10 replacement bulbs in yellow from Luminics. I wasn't sure how to get access to the back of the fog lamps to change out the bulb. I managed to do it by reaching down from inside the hood. It was hard because you are working just by feel. You can't see the back of the fog lights from there. The driver's side was the hardest. I twisted the lamp socket and it came out ok but the length of the wire harness wasn't long enough to get it up high enough to where you could use 2 hands on it. I got the little clip off the bulb and managed to remove the bulb and replace it with the new one but getting that clip back on was the hard part ... then it was also tough to get the lamp back into the housing, line up the tabs and twist lock it into place. Passenger side was a little easier .. a little more cable on the harness allowed 2 hands ... still had to work in the blind to get it back in the socket and locked. I can't wait till they get the service manual out ... bought the Caliber one thinking a lot would be similar but the fog lights aren't like the Jeep ... wasn't much help. Anyway, I managed to get it done.
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Unread 11-06-2006, 07:42 PM   #7
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Are these the bulbs you found?


Description: Luminics H10 42W JDM Yellow 2500K Auto Headlight Light Bulbs - Manufactory part no: H10, 9145, 9155
ItemNumber: 106074 - LYH10F

I don't need white fog lights here, I need Yellow also.

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Unread 11-06-2006, 08:08 PM   #8
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yes .... however, I must say that they are not very yellow. They clearly have a yellow cast but not a deep yellow like I was hoping for. If you do a search on ebay there are several brands ... you might want to try one of the others and see if they are a bit more yellow than the Luminics. Nokya says "deep yellow glow" maybe they would be better???????
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Unread 11-07-2006, 02:10 AM   #9
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just curious, why is yellow beneficial over white? don't know too much about fog lights really. Oh and to introduce my self to everyone, my name is Kyle. I'm in the Coast Guard stationed in Guam. My wife and I have a Compass Limited ordered and are anxiously awaiting it. Thanks
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Hi Kyle!

After seeing that lynnK was going with yellow fogs and Geo was thinking about them too it crossed my mind to give them a try. My perception was that, as the driver you could see better in the fog, but according to this and several other articles, that isn't necessarily true.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99xx4.htm

What I got from the articles that I found was that one may be no better than the other for seeing through the fog but a bike article made a strong point of others being able to see you in the fog and that's a good thing.


Maybe this is a question for Myth Busters?

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Unread 11-07-2006, 06:02 AM   #11
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From an article I saw:

My understanding is that it is important for fog lights to be one color
(rather than white, which is all colors) because the different
wavelengths(colors) of visible light scatter off the fog droplets
differently. This phenomenon is known as "dispersion," because the
different colors of light in an image will separate from each other,
causing the image to "disperse." If you illuminate the road with only one
wavelength (color) of light, the images of the objects you see will still
become somewhat blurry because of the scattering of light by the fog, but
at least you won't have extra problems from dispersion. So, if we want to
use just one wavelength of light, which wavelength should we use? It turns
out that light with short wavelengths scatters more than light with long
wavelengths (short to long: violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange,
red). So, a long wavelength light will be best. There's another thing to
consider, too: our eyes are not equally sensitive to all colors. It turns
out that we are most sensitive to yellow and green light. So, our best
compromise between sensitivity for our eyes and a long wavelength for least
scattering is yellow light.
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Unread 11-07-2006, 06:30 AM   #12
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Lynn,

That same statement was in the first half of the link that I submitted. The second half states that fog "droplets" are so large that they still scatter all light, including yellow. I am still of the same basic belief as you, I'm not arguing.

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Unread 11-07-2006, 09:36 AM   #13
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I'm in agreement, I would like to have better forward vision with our lights in fog, but I'm more concern over others seeing me. I also favor rear fog lights, like they have in Europe.

And Kyle, I hope your order goes through ASAP.
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Thanks TimeTraveler. Yeah supposedly my order is delayed right now because the side impact airbags are not ready for production in the Compass. The lady at the dealer told me it won't even start being made until December I'll wait a little longer for the added safety, I don't mind
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Unread 11-07-2006, 04:45 PM   #15
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Well Well Well, another story

I'm after a 5-speed limited, and they had manual transmission production problems from the manufacture. Put all Compass' and Calibers on hold.

I was just informed after 6 weeks that mine has been "scheduled for production", what ever that means.

This is just like being in California and trying to purchase a Miata when they first came out. Maybe if I pay double I can get it in a week.

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