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post #121 of 160 Old 12-28-2007, 11:40 AM
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I bought my Compass in Jan. '07, did the 1st oil change at 3000k - just hitting 6200k now. Is anyone doing the 6000k service maintenance? or is it just a waste of money? It seems like everyone is just doing the oil change. I need some advice.

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post #122 of 160 Old 12-28-2007, 12:19 PM
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I bought my Compass in Jan. '07, did the 1st oil change at 3000k - just hitting 6200k now. Is anyone doing the 6000k service maintenance? or is it just a waste of money? It seems like everyone is just doing the oil change. I need some advice.
After getting picked on by Ridin' Around , I'm seriously considering changing to Amsoil in the Spring, I like the way that they will cover the warranty and cover you if the dealer tries to refuse. I don't know if the other synthetic oil companies do that or not. I'm due to change my oil right now (24K) but the dealer is going to get to do it with the "meets requirements" stuff because I don't feel like laying out in the snow to do it myself. I still think that if your not going with some kind of synthetic, $25 is cheap insurance.

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After getting picked on by Ridin' Around , I'm seriously considering changing to Amsoil in the Spring, I like the way that they will cover the warranty and cover you if the dealer tries to refuse. I don't know if the other synthetic oil companies do that or not. I'm due to change my oil right now (24K) but the dealer is going to get to do it with the "meets requirements" stuff because I don't feel like laying out in the snow to do it myself. I still think that if your not going with some kind of synthetic, $25 is cheap insurance.
Gramps, really glad to hear that "sleepin' on it" did you some good! I really didn't hurt you too bad, did I? Keep me in mind come springtime! Anyone with Amsoil questions please ask them. There are alot of untruths and misconceptions floating around. I like to give facts and let you decide for yourself. No pushy sales tactics or pressure,- just facts. Ask Gramps he'll let you know if I give straight answers or the Bull-oni!
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Gramps, really glad to hear that "sleepin' on it" did you some good! I really didn't hurt you too bad, did I? Keep me in mind come springtime! Anyone with Amsoil questions please ask them. There are alot of untruths and misconceptions floating around. I like to give facts and let you decide for yourself. No pushy sales tactics or pressure,- just facts. Ask Gramps he'll let you know if I give straight answers or the Bull-oni!
Gabe, it has to do with the honest information that you've provided. It's good info and I'm an information whore!

What it boiled down to was this:

An API (American Petroleum Institute) license indicates that a specific motor oil formulation has passed the minimum performance standards as defined by a series of laboratory bench, physical, chemical and engine tests. The API committee is comprised of representatives from automobile, oil and additive companies.

In other words, Big Oil and Friends are telling you that API approved oil is recommended because they are the ones making the money by you using it. Since API approved oil is petroleum based it introduces those nasty HYDROCARBONS into you lubricating system that CAUSES the acids, sludge, and other impurities that HAS to be changed more frequently than with FULL SYNTHETIC oils, even partial synthetics contain some hydrocarbons but/because they are API approved.

Amsoil has their own warranty policy and backs it up. Fewer oil changes = less labor, less pollution, less dependence on foreign oil and is cheaper in the long run. I will be contacting you when it gets warmer I'll be shooting for a once a year, warm weather oil change for all of the family stuff.

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Gramps I use Amsoil in my motorcycle and it works GREAT! With all that heat that can build up inside the fairing of my FJR it's cheap insurance.

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i have 3 filters avail for a 2.4 L compass / patriot.

they are mopar filters...... i thought they were great, but i bought 4 filters for my g/f's jeep but i guess you could say she's no longer the g/f

so, i have no use for them,

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bump to the top, It's springtime Gramps!
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I must say, I'm enticed by Amsoil's idea of only changing my oil once a year (I put less than 15K on my car per year). But I'm very nervous about the impact of my lifetime bumper-to-bumper/drivetrain... which was the main reason for buying my Compass. The fine print on amsoil's website was very vague on the specifics of OEM warranty claims; and it sounded like a giant hassle if it turns into a finger pointing situation. I wonder if there is some way for the dealer to inspect at the 3K intervals and sign off that it doesn't need an oil/filter change. Amsoil doesn't look like they have an EAO filter for the Compass; so either way it looks like I'll be stuck with a 3K filter change.

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Early Oil Change and Related Issues

In the "old days" we use to change the oil on any new vehicle between 500 and 1000 miles, in case of metal filings and other coming off of a new engine. My neighbor is a young mechanic and when I told him that, he had never heard of that. For you experienced mechanics, do you still recommend the "new engine" oil change (obviuosly, it cannot hurt). I am at 1,000 miles as we speak.

About three years ago, consumer report analyzed oil from vehicle under variuos driving conditions and determine that most drivers should be changing oil every 7,500 miles (in other words, the oil pulled out of cars after 7500 miles had essentially the same properties as new oil)..exception...gravel road. If you drive on dirt roads, changes every 3-5 thousand miles was beneficial. City vs Higway made little difference...
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I would say there is no needs since engines are now prebroken in from the factory.

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In the "old days" most new cars were delivered from the factory with non-detergent oil that needed to be change asap after 500 miles. That's been quite a while back but the practice carried on with no benefit.

Save your money, save your time and save the planet buy not changing your oil until you need too.

Also, the 5W20 oil that the factory uses is partially synthetic, as is (I believe) all 5W20 oil is.

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Do you guys think fully synthetic is better, or blends? Again, the same neighbor tells me that he thinks blends are the best (and cheaper than fully synthetic)
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The reasons to change your oil:
Contaminants (acid, sludge, other impurities) caused by none other than (primarily) hydrocarbons. Where do those come from? Primarily Dino oil. The less Dino oil, the better. I'm switching this summer to full synthetic. Also fewer oil changes, less cost over the long run, less pollution from used oil and more time to have fun.

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As a general rule and under normal conditions, I don't think a full-synthetic oil is necessary - but I do think there are positive attributes.

I use only Mobil 1 in all my vehicles. The reason is I have several vehicles and only put about 3,000 miles per year on any of 'em. As a result, I change the oil once a year and need an oil that's stable for that long. And, I do think synthetics improve MPG as well as cold start-up friction reduction.

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