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Unread 02-17-2007, 11:56 AM   #76
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"trail rated" isn't much more than a badge and some advertising dollars..

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Unread 02-17-2007, 04:07 PM   #77
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I've put some more information about "Trail Rated" package, in particular pertaining to the Patriot, over here where others may find it.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showt...96#post3323096

All that I am really interested in is another 2" ground clearance max, skid plates and an engine oil cooler. I personally don't need the rest of the package for what I intend to do with mine.

In talking with the dealer today they said that they would sell me the Badge! They felt too that it is just hype.

Other stuff about my 12 K mile review;

The filter for the A/C, that is part of the security package, is under the right side of the dash, cost $35 and $9 to change it and they didn't have it in stock.

Tire pressure sensors: The older Jeeps you can reset the sensors with a large round magnet that fits over the valve stem and then from the dash display set it to "recalibrate" for each wheel. The Compass is a different system that is supposed to recalibrate itself after driving it for a while. I told them that my right front was reading as my right rear and visa-versa and they didn't have an explanation for it. So, just check your tires manually and only use the TPMS as a general indicator that something isn't right.
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Unread 02-17-2007, 04:38 PM   #78
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I've got the tps on my 06 Liberty; it resets on its own, with just a few revolutions..after a tire rotation. I wonder if they are the same system?..regardless..just use it to tell if something is wrong isn't the correct response from the dealership....
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Unread 02-17-2007, 04:39 PM   #79
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I've got the tps on my 06 Liberty; it resets on its own, with just a few revolutions..after a tire rotation. I wonder if they are the same system?..regardless..just use it to tell if something is wrong isn't the correct response from the dealership....
Oh, that's MY recommendation until I can find a resolve for the issue, not theirs. They don't know why it reads in reverse. Further explanation: the sensor did reset and no longer showed a fault but it still read in reverse for which tire had what pressure. Maybe I'll find an answer in the Service Manual, IF IT EVER GETS HERE! Still waiting....
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Unread 02-20-2007, 06:17 PM   #80
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Another warranty repair

I got about 5 miles from work this morning (12,105 total on the Compass) and the engine light (malfunction indicator light) came on steadily accompanied by a “ding”. I got to work and all of the normal stuff checked out fine as far as I could tell: oil and coolant levels, the belt was intact and the gas cap seemed OK and the GASCAP message was never displayed (yah, it tells you that too). I called the Dodge dealer that’s close to where I work and owned by the same people that have the Jeep dealership that sold it to me and they said to bring it in. They gave me a ride back to work and then called me about noon. They said that they had heard of this problem before. It seems that the throttle actuator, in some cases, rubs against the intake manifold and a wiring harness and after a while does not let the fuel completely close down causing the light to come on. They had to order the manifold, actuator and harness and said that they would have it in about a week and that they would give me a call. They also said that it would be fine to drive in the meantime. The Compass runs fine, idles in Park at about 750 rpm and very slightly less in Drive and the throttle doesn’t hang up. I’ll keep you posted.

UPDATE 2/22/07:

Bad Gas? When the engine light came on I was down to 1/2 a tank of gas and I know that I refitted the gas cap twice as a check to make sure that it was on correctly. When I filled up last night the engine light went out. I don't know how the dealer determined that it may be the problem stated above, I'll need to check with them. Maybe I panicked a bit on this, even though the manual says to go ahead and drive it as long as the light is steady, right! That's something that I like to do on a new car! Another possibility is that the gas cap, or "something" in the fuel system lost pressure when it got down to 1/2 a tank? Again, I'll keep you posted.

Update 2/28/07

Filled up again today. Fuel was low enough that the "Low Fuel" light came on and still no problem. I called the dealer twice to try and find out if the tech had actually observed this problem or if it was speculation and I did not receive a return call either time. I'm closing this issue and put down that it was either bad gas or the gas cap still wasn't on right. Maybe just an on my part. The wife has always said that I had a screw loose somewhere. I what she means by that.

Update 5/5/07

15K oil change, absolutely nothing new to report.
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Unread 07-28-2007, 09:24 AM   #81
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It's been a while since I really did an update on mine so here is another boring report. Of course when you're looking for defects, drawback and problems, boring is a good thing. One year, 18K miles and no significant problems, that's more than I had hoped for with something that's a new design. Jeep Engineering!

I had another nail in a tire , the TPMS worked fine but when I went to take it off the lug nuts were really torqued on and I ended up rounding one of them off . I had it trailered to the dealer, no charge to get the lug nut off, insurance paid for the towing (Chrysler's Roadside Assistance doesn't cover towing for a flat tire even if the real problem is caused by the inability to remove said tire ). So it was $8 for a lug nut and fix the tire plus the standard Oil Change and service at 18K. It's best to invest in a good 19mm deep, half inch drive socket, breaker bar and maybe even a 2 foot piece of pipe to carry along in the boot.

I had intended on this report being called "half way through my warranty" but on Monday I will pay the $900 for the Lifetime Power train extension that is available until Sept 30. and $1500 after that. Whatever mods that I do will be primarily with factory available pieces to maintain the warranty as necessary. By being stubborn and not buying in to the original extended warranty has paid off big time, I got lucky! I plan on keeping my MK a looooong time and now with the new warranty I have no of any unexpected expenses for tranny, engine or other power train components.
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Unread 07-31-2007, 08:11 AM   #82
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Just a note here, if you are using a breaker bar and a pipe to torque your lugnuts on, you are putting WAY too much torque on them. I use just a 2 foot breaker bar, and I don't put all my strength on it. No way these wheels need that much torque. Not only are you over-stressing the lug bolts, you're going to warp your brake rotors because of all the torque.
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Unread 07-31-2007, 08:16 AM   #83
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Another note: The cheater bar is to get them OFF after some gorilla has put them on. Thanks for helping to clarify that. Additionally the lug nut torque spec on both the Steel and Aluminum wheels is 100 Lb Ft (135 N n)
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Probably some tool with a 1/2 or 3/4 impact that doesn't understand torque numbers. *cough dealership morons cough*
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Probably some tool with a 1/2 or 3/4 impact that doesn't understand torque numbers. *cough dealership morons cough*
Is that "tool' or "fool" . I agree! The dealer is the only place that has touched my wheels and they "said" that their impacts are set to 75 or 85 depending on the application. I've got my doubts on that, that's not even to spec. I'm not a small dude and it took about all that I could do to break 4 of them loose and then I rounded off the 5th. I can just imagine someone smaller, male or female, fighting with these out on a camping trip or some place remote.
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What typically will happen is the young moron that does the easy stuff for the dealership. He doesn't understand torque specs, and thinks his air gun is running too slow. He adjusts, and BAM, you now are getting 150+ lbs of torque on your lugs. Fools, tools, etc, whatever choice word you like. I don't take my vehicle to a dealership for anything besides recalls and something I refuse to fix under warranty. Everything else I will do myself, I don't trust the idiots.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY COMPASS!

Born on this day Friday, 6/26/2006, still rollin' strong!
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