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Unread 12-08-2006, 02:45 PM   #46
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9000 K miles and Warranty repair

First on the list is that there are no problems with the drive train at all.

Second is that I had a nail in my right rear tire and it shows up on the TPMS as the right front. I rotated my tires at the 6 K mark it it appears that the computer takes it that the sensor is still in the same location as it was originally. I had to refill the tire twice over a two week period. The first time the other tires were up around 34/35 lbs and the Low Tire indicator was still showing 29 in the faulty tire. The second time was about the same readings except the tire was showing 30 lbs. It appears that it doesn't just sense the pressure but calculates the change in pressure.

For those that want to run different tires or let air out for sand or whatever, the indicator only dinged once on each time starting and the EVIC always changed to the TPMS screen. The nice part was that I didn't have to watch a blinking screen the whole time, push the button and it goes to whatever screen that you want.

Last is my dragging drivers side rear window that at one point wouldn't roll back up on the first try. That was repaired under warranty by them pulling the door panel off and re-aligning the window channel. All fixed. It was "hinted" at that this had happened before on some early production units (mine is 6-06) back when the robots were crashing on the trial runs. I couldn't get them to repeat that when I picked her up.

She's a great ride!!

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Unread 12-08-2006, 06:56 PM   #47
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Second is that I had a nail in my right rear tire and it show up on the TPMS as the right front. I rotated my tires at the 6 K mark it it appears that the computer takes it that the sensor is still in the same location as it was originally. I had to refill the tire twice over a two week period.
Did not my research into this system predict that would happen.

We figured that you would need to teach the computer the new location when you rotate tires (on other Jeeps it is a procedure involving a tool which I think is essentially a magnet).

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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:05 PM   #48
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Did not my research into this system predict that would happen.

We figured that you would need to teach the computer the new location when you rotate tires (on other Jeeps it is a procedure involving a tool which I think is essentially a magnet).


Yup, just confirming and making people aware. Shouldn't that be something that the dealer does when they are the ones to rotate them? It should be part of the service. With out the Service Manual we do depend on the dealers to take care of things when you take it to them. Oh, well, another 3 K and they will be reading right again.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:08 PM   #49
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That's interesting. Maybe if you mention it to them next time they can take care of it for everyone else in the future.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:30 PM   #50
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I'll do that but this isn't the first Jeep to have this feature, they are also a Chrysler / Dodge dealer too. The service people should have this information as part of their procedure.

Kev's statement "on other Jeeps it is a procedure involving a tool which I think is essentially a magnet" sounded like speculation to me at the time. It does turn out to be true but I still feel that we, as owners, shouldn't be telling the dealers how to do their jobs. Now that this has been brought up again I hope that everybody else out there learns from my "mistake".
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Yup, just confirming and making people aware. Shouldn't that be something that the dealer does when they are the ones to rotate them? It should be part of the service.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:32 PM   #52
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but I still feel that we, as owners, shouldn't be telling the dealers how to do their jobs. Now that this has been brought up again I hope that everybody else out there learns from my "mistake".

Absofreakin'lutely!!!!!


Not making excuses, but perhaps the techs at your dealer didn't realize some Compasses are equipped with the EVIC and you caught on boneheading....
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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:43 PM   #53
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An additional point is that when I told them about the tire leaking down I also informed them that it was not the tire as indicated on the TPMS. It was only 17 degrees when I brought my baby back home so I didn't manually check the tires to see if they reset the sensors or not. That gave them 2 chances to fix the read out, I wonder if they did anything about it? Something I'll be checking tomorrow.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 07:47 PM   #54
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Absofreakin'lutely!!!!!


Not making excuses, but perhaps the techs at your dealer didn't realize some Compasses are equipped with the EVIC and you caught on boneheading....
I did it the same time as the oil change, they had to drive the car on the rack to do that. The EVIC is as plain as day and this time the Service Adviser knew about it too.

I'm not really pitching a major ***** about this, it's just to make others aware.

Something else that you said 'back when" Kev. Something along the lines that the TPMS is NOT a substitute for regular pressure checks and tire maintenance. If the system alerts you of a fault, check ALL of the tires!

Final point (maybe), if all of the tires are up to the same pressure +/- a pound, a manual pressure gage will not tell you that the sensors have been reset. You'll have to wait for a problem or create one to check it out. Not something I care to do in the middle of winter.
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Unread 12-09-2006, 02:26 PM   #55
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For a car with new engine and aerodynamic body, the gas mileage isn't that great eh? Consider my brick on wheels with ancient 4L gets close to 20 mpg.
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Unread 12-09-2006, 02:43 PM   #56
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For a car with new engine and aerodynamic body, the gas mileage isn't that great eh? Consider my brick on wheels with ancient 4L gets close to 20 mpg.

The wife's GC with a 4.0 does really great on mileage too. Only trouble is you can't get them any more The mileage may not seem GREAT but it is steady. Pretty much no matter how I drive it , either light foot or lead foot, doesn't seem to affect it. The gas with or with out ethanol and the outside temperatures have more of an affect than my lead foot does.

I think my model "A" got about 30 mpg but it didn't matter, gas was about 20 cents a gallon.

Aerodynamic? No not really,the Compass is just a "brick on wheels" with curves. Maybe a bit more "artsy" than other Jeeps but still carries a large frontal area and high roof line. The coefficiency of drag for the Neon was .34, the Caliber is .375, The Wrangler (depending on the report you read) is between .51 and .58 and the Grand Cherokee limited is .44. The Compass is probably closer to the GC.

BTW: I still like classic Jeeps and I'm considering a CJ type for a family project. Just because we LIKE the Compass doesn't mean that we dis-like the other Jeeps, far from it. Yes, at times, I have gotten my panties in a bunch over some of the comments made about the Compass. Sometimes you just gotta dare to be different. You don't see the Compass owners going into the other Jeep threads JUST to trash them , do you?
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Oh I'm not trashing it by any means, just curious about the lower than average mpg for 4 banger cars.
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Unread 12-09-2006, 04:19 PM   #58
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Oh I'm not trashing it by any means, just curious about the lower than average mpg for 4 banger cars.

I didn't mean to say that YOU were trashing it, obviously others have been. There are a lot of comfort and safety features that tend to eat up mileage too, just from the added weight. Yup, there's stuff out there that gets 30 - 36 miles per gallon, but when you start add on the features that are on the Compass their mileage drops too.
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we're getting around 24 miles per gallon too. only 700 miles on ours. we were told letting the engine warm up properly during the break in period could help to improve mileage down the road after the engine breaks in. ever heard of that? I guess it makes sense.
p.s. leave the engine cover on. It's ugly under there
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Unread 12-09-2006, 10:51 PM   #60
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we're getting around 24 miles per gallon too. only 700 miles on ours. we were told letting the engine warm up properly during the break in period could help to improve mileage down the road after the engine breaks in. ever heard of that? I guess it makes sense.
p.s. leave the engine cover on. It's ugly under there
I WAS getting that when the temperature was 40 degrees plus just not now. I do expect it to go back up when the cold weather is gone. What did they mean by "properly", as in before taking off, or did they just mean don't make short runs?

Back when engine tolerances were more loose than todays you did need to let your engine idle until it was warned up. Todays engines, I heard that it's not necessary, so I don't know

You were brave enough to take the cover off, huh? To bad you didn't take a picture!
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