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Unread 08-03-2006, 09:16 PM   #1
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Compass Hatchet Job

I removed the article of the link I posted here, the link is still below. I am usually smarter than believing what the media puts in newspapers these days. The problem I have with their review is that all the participants are in Michigan, the Detroit area. That is motor city and I am sure certain biases, maybe even old wounds, who knows. could come into play. If they did a review of the whole country that would be a different story. Take the story below with a grain of salt, I should have before I posted it here.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...plate=printart


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Unread 08-03-2006, 10:31 PM   #2
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Without the Jeep, we could not have won WWII. See what happens when you hand the company over to a bunch of Germans?
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Unread 08-03-2006, 10:47 PM   #3
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Without the Jeep, we could not have won WWII. See what happens when you hand the company over to a bunch of Germans?
lol oh so true.
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Unread 08-03-2006, 11:12 PM   #4
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Without the Jeep, we could not have won WWII. See what happens when you hand the company over to a bunch of Germans?
heh... nice


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Unread 08-04-2006, 03:44 AM   #5
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If we all bought by popular opinion, we'd all be driving Toyotas. Another payback.

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Unread 08-04-2006, 03:49 PM   #6
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Hey, I'm not knocking the compass, I am still interested but not as much.

In terms of Toyota, well they just passed up Ford............

..................The Japanese auto giant Toyota passed the struggling Ford Motor Co in July to rank as the second-biggest selling auto company in the United States, behind General Motors, sales figures showed. And in another development that raised eyebrows in the auto industry, Honda, another Japanese company, outsold the Chrysler group last month for the first time..........................


The compass is not that bad from my first hand inspection but the interior feels cheap. Granted I didnt get the chance to see a limited, but still.

I don't know what the deal is with US carmakers, I am trying my best to buy American but I don't know where they are getting their design talent from. This compass is also waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced for what you are getting.
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Unread 08-04-2006, 05:00 PM   #7
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I took no offense, my apologies if I sounded that way. Mine is a Limited and I got it for below MSRP. One of the first in the area and I guess that they were trying to put some on the road and they gave me about 3X what my rust bucket was worth to boot. I love it! As far as cheap, yeah lots of plastic but so's my Challenger. Material and thread rots anyway, I didn't consider that a big factor. Fit and finish are good to very, very good. I'm the only one in the family that's ever been off roading to need 4 wheel low and now I'm the only one who doesn't have it. I don't consider that a big factor either. Why lug around a heavy transfer case that your never going to use? I do smile a lot tho, every time I look down at the AVG MPG and it's sitting at about 25.0 with only 450 miles on it. It's my daily commuter, no matter what the weather, cheap trips on weekends to collect treasures and even my daughters 6'1" boyfriend is comfortable in the back seats. BTW; Car and Driver had a very positive article about it in the latest issue. They were up in Oregon playing in the sand when those videos were shot on the other threads.
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Unread 08-04-2006, 05:40 PM   #8
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Take the same people who love the Caliber, slap a different badge on it and suddenly they hate it.. Ok, WHY should I trust their opinions when they are so OBVIOUSLY shallow?

About the only real meat in that article at all is someone describing it as 'underpowered' and that's something that I'll be taking into consideration when I get closer to 'buy time'.

Until then, on paper, the Compass is looking good as far as what I'm looking for in a new car.

I'm driving a 13 year old Intrepid with 215K miles on it. I don't need something quite so large anymore (my kids are getting older, 1's already in college) but if I have things to haul, the Compass looks like there's plenty of room (the trunk of my Intrepid has served me well, if we needed more there was always my wife's Grand Caravan).

I love ABS (check), 4WD for when I'm driving through the snows in NH (check), electronic stability control (check), plenty of airbags for safety (check), all the basic options that I've learned over the years that I want (check) and they don't make me buy their $4000 premium package to get the $800 sunroof I want. BIG CHECK.

I don't pretend that this is some miniature model of a Grand Cherokee - nt by any stretch. BUT - coming form the other side of the equation - it looks like Jeep may have finally made a car that meets my requirements so *now* Jeep is "in the running".
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Unread 08-04-2006, 07:11 PM   #9
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I thought by the title maybe someone did a photoshop of the Compass.

The front does make me want to take a hatchet to it though. Looks bloated.
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Unread 08-07-2006, 08:44 PM   #10
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I love ABS (check), 4WD for when I'm driving through the snows in NH (check), electronic stability control (check), plenty of airbags for safety (check), all the basic options that I've learned over the years that I want (check) and they don't make me buy their $4000 premium package to get the $800 sunroof I want. BIG CHECK.

I don't pretend that this is some miniature model of a Grand Cherokee - nt by any stretch. BUT - coming form the other side of the equation - it looks like Jeep may have finally made a car that meets my requirements so *now* Jeep is "in the running".

I ordered a Caliber for July delivery but it wasn't going to show up in time so I checked to see if the Compass was out and to my pleasant suprise it was. Jeep was my first choise at the Chicago Auto Show (right after the Challenger) but the "late summer availability" was not in my time frame. I got lucky for a change. I feel too that Jeep finally made something that meets my requirements, like staying on the road! It's a good thing.
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Unread 08-08-2006, 07:56 AM   #11
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Without the Jeep, we could not have won WWII. See what happens when you hand the company over to a bunch of Germans?
I can see either you are stuck in 1947 or you are not a fan of globalization...

BTW: The Compass is NOT the first Jeep car.
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I can see either you are stuck in 1947 or you are not a fan of globalization...

BTW: The Compass is NOT the first Jeep car.
I may be a little old school with my love of solid axles, manual transmissions, and the 4.0 engine that chrysler never liked because it was designed by AMC, but I know my jeep history. The Jeepster commando for example, was a 2wd car made by Kaiser Jeep (now Kaiser Permanante) back in the 60's. One of the military Jeeps back then also had an experimental independent suspension, which didn't get very good reviews at the time. I understand exploring new concepts and methods, but the Jeep brand is or used to have a niche - solid, rugged, capable, and reliable. Them making the Compass and putting the Jeep logo on it is up there with the Porsche Cayenne (SUV) or the heavy duty Honda Ridgeline pickup.

Plus they've got the Dodge Caliber to try to fill the market the Compass is. Back in the 90's Chrysler axed the Comanchee because it was taking away sales from the Dakota, and they wanted the Dakota to succeed.

My final thought is that the Liberty should have been marketed as a Dodge, sort of a little sister to the Durango (they look the same from behind), and DCX should have kept making the XJ, or at least a renewed version of it like the 2500 (Bejing Jeep). Now that enough people have convinced them that it was a bad idea, they give us the XK which is an insult to the true roots of the XJ. DCX corporate doesnt seem to really understand the Jeep brand or its market, but at least they're keeping it competitive with all the other yuppie SUV's that everyone else is making.
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Unread 08-09-2006, 05:32 PM   #13
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Without the Jeep, we could not have won WWII. See what happens when you hand the company over to a bunch of Germans?
Watch it now! I work for the Germans now The Compass is just a new idea from Jeep. It'll probably be around a few years, and I wouldn't mind one really.
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I drove a Jeep Compass today, and while I feel that it is a very nice car, and I loved the way it handles, I wouldn't really consider it for purchasing. I want to buy a Jeep because I love the rugged feel and how well they are built. The Compass feels more like a street vehicle, which I'm very sure many people will love. It's just that personally, that's not what I'm looking for in a Jeep. However, if you think about the amount of people that actually take their Jeeps off road, the Compass seems to fit the target audience very well.

Anyway, I felt that the engine accelerated very well, and the Compass had a very nice overall feel to it. If I was in the market for that, I would consider one, but for about $2500 more, I can get a Commander...I would rather have the Commander.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the Patriot fits into the line up...will it be rugged, or more highway geared, like the Compass?
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I removed the article of the link I posted here, the link is still below. I am usually smarter than believing what the media puts in newspapers these days. The problem I have with their review is that all the participants are in Michigan, the Detroit area. That is motor city and I am sure certain biases, maybe even old wounds, who knows. could come into play. If they did a review of the whole country that would be a different story. Take the story below with a grain of salt, I should have before I posted it here.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...plate=printart
I don't judge Movies by the critics reviews either. What does Detroit know about cars any way (he, he). Edmonds is British and I have trouble with their opinion of cars in general. What can you expect from people who drive on the wrong side of the road? The MSN article was favorable and the Car and Driver was also (what a shock that was)!
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