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Unread 05-26-2007, 10:33 PM   #1
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Compass Diesel Turbo?

Hi All,

I'm a proud new Jeep Compass (Turbo Diesel) owner from Australia. Been looking at the Jeep forums a lot, as there is a lack of Australian based forums for the compass. Out of curiousity, is there any particular reason why the Diesel Turbo version of the Compass is not available in the US?

From what I've read so far about the standard petrol version, the Diesel seems to get over a lot of the issues with performance and fuel economy.

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Unread 05-27-2007, 09:42 AM   #2
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US is picky on E-M-I-S-S-I-O-N-S!

It kills me that we can't puchase (nor do they offer) a diesel Patriot here in NY State that gets 43mpg combined when one can purchase an H2 Hummer that gets something like 13 mpg because the diesel Patriot emits elevated emmisions but gets > 3X the mileage per gallon of fuel.

Also, there are plenty of 10yr old and older vehicles on the road that spew more pollutants and have poorer fuel economy than current production models, but the current models are verboten.

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Unread 05-27-2007, 10:06 AM   #3
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fuel mileage

whats your fuel mileage like?
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Unread 05-27-2007, 04:34 PM   #4
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whats your fuel mileage like?
My average to date is 8.1L/100KM (approx 29mpg).

Keep in mind I do a lot of city driving (stop & go), and on weekends take the family out and do a lot of highway driving.

If I do a lot of highway driving, I average 7.5L/100KM (31mpg). I've only had the car over a week, and am loving it. With the Turbo, taking off is a breeze - but can easily suck down the fuel if you're heavy on the throttle too much.
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Unread 05-27-2007, 11:15 PM   #5
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Huntyeraws hit it square on the head.

The US's stupid epa requirements are more concerned about emissions per fixed period. Because of that, diesel engines and their particulate emissions dont pass the spec, even though they are usually cleaner and less smog producing then the gas powered vehicles that do pass.

Now, if the government did something intelligent like emissions content per gallon of fuel consumed, then maybe we could have all the nice fuel efficient vehicles with small diesel engines that the rest of the world enjoys.

Shoot. I'd love 29 mpg at 3.01 a gallon, compared to my 16 mpg at 3:39 a gallon.
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Unread 05-28-2007, 07:59 AM   #6
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On top of emissions, there are a number of people in the U.S. with long memories of GM's diesel debacle in the late 70's and early 80's. On top of that, diesels are perceived as being noisy and smelly, and being difficult to find people to work on them.

That being said, I'd consider buying one if it were available...diesels have advanced so much in the past 20 years that they're now a great choice.

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Unread 05-28-2007, 08:09 PM   #7
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Emissions and previous diesel problems are what's turned americans against diesels. Look up some of GM's first diesel engines. They took a gasoline engine and tried to make it run diesel fuel, it didn't turn out very well.
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