I'm a newbie too, not sure which thread that I should be in, maybe I should start a new one like "owners report" or something. Appears that most of the threads could be called "Compass Bashing 101, 102, 103, ...." and I was looking for Tech info There is some good information in here if you read all of the threads but there's also a lot of opinions from people that haven't had a "hands on" with it. She doesn't look like the classic Jeep but, I don't consider that a bad thing. Every thing that I've ever driven has been a little different and I like it that way. I'll be posting more as the miles roll up. I love my Compass, sure has the Caliber beat for what I wanted and you'll find out why.
I'm the proud and happy owner of an 1998 XJ (Cherokee Classic) Pavement Queen!
I ride motorcycles A LOT, and I tow a smallish boat when I can, so I only drive maybe 6k miles a year.
There's a lot I like about my XJ, but had I bought it new I would have optioned it for a little more comfort. And I built it a bit too rugged for daily use. Heavy duty springs and timbren overloads make for a ride more bouncy than your average TJ.
What I REALLY don't like is seeing 16 mpg on the display info center.
I was seriously thinking about a Diesel Libby, but I don't have the scratch. And though the Deisel GC sounds good for 08, it's still not as high up as I want to see fuel economy.
So I am REALLY, REALLY, REALLY excited about the possibility of picking up a Compass.
I've already got a price on the package I'd want, and heck, at least I'd wind up with a 5 speed again!
Since I got enough toys, I may even let the XJ go.
Call the Compass a cross-over, a cute ute, a chick ute, I could care less.
If it gives me heated leather seats and a kick !@#@#$ stereo and 29 mpg when heading for the slopes, yet will tow a small cargo trailer or my boat once in a while (good thing it's a SMALL boat) then I'm happy.
And, sales like that are good for DC, the mark needs the business, Jeep included.
It doesnt have to be a wrangler to be good, all we want is solid axle suspension. And if you put axle locks on both ends we (wrangler elitists) will go crazy. And that car could use a little more clearance, too.
And 1 more thing: one cause for all the hate is marketing it like its a mitsubishi eclipse.
I am the target market (Female...twenties...yada yada yada) and i think the marketing is horrendous!
I dont like the bobble heads at all.
and still i havent seen many of those commercials.
i first saw the compass on the jeep website...since i was actively scouting vehicle websites (well as "active" as one can be) and stumbled upon it. I guess i had lucky timing.
i was really impressed about everything jeep was offerring at such a great price.
Now i have to deal with people i know asking "do you have a bobble head in your car?" to which i emphatically reply "NO".
I'm looking forward to see published safety ratings. (I'm not on the up and up...so whenever they are published I hope i see the posts...to keep myself apprised)
I also noticed that the Compass tends to sell itself. I've only encounted two around town in my travels...but it seems as if whenever I get out of the Compass there are always interested neighbors/strangers - and everyone seems to like the general look of the Compass and when I get into all of the options and features they become true fans. I have on neighbor (who owns a wrangler) say that he was seriously considering buying the Compass...and whenever I run into him he is always asking about my lil truck.
and I'm asking seriously, because if the XJ sells I've been SERIOUSLY considering a Baja or a Compass. I've gotten serious quotes from two local dealers which basically come out to as well equipped 5-speed models as can be had, optioned or accessoried and they are basically a wash out the door.
*Both have AWD
*Engine size and power is VERY similar - so what's better - flat or inline 4. The scoobie is an interference timing belt motor how about the Compass?
*Towing capacity (which is important to me) is similar 2400 lbs vs. 2000
*Mileage is similar but slight advantage Compass(quoting with 5-speeds) 23/28 vs 26/29
Unique features that are not available, even as an option on the other model
Bed and passthrough
Tire pressure monitoring system and trip computer (driver info center)
Rear windows that roll down ALL the way
Steering wheel audio controls
Built in Sirius Satellite Radio
MP3 audio jack
AC voltage jack
Front passenger seat that folds flat for additional cargo room with long items
I would have listed heated leather seats too, but the local Scoobie dealer was willing to install them for me if we go that route.
I could also compare to the Forester, but I don't like the body-style as much. The only advantage the Forester would have over the Baja is that the heated leather seats are avaialble from the factory at a trim level where I could still get the 5-speed. Past that prices start to increase dramatically on the Forester, yet it still doesn't have most of those additional items I've listed for the Compass.
If the Compass wasn't so well appointed for the price, I might very well be buying a Subaru instead.
But the price vs. amenities (from a company that I already like) is a very compelling combination.
Pretty soon the Chinese will be here with their cheap disposable cars, too. They started out the same way that the Japanese did 50 years ago, selling all kinds of cheap crap that you would throw away in 2 or 3 months and buy another one because they were so cheap. Made in Japan was a joke back then and now look at them. They made enough money by doing that they then started building something with some quality in it that it is eating our lunch. The Chinese will do it, too. If you have any doubts just start reading the labels, not on food but, where it's made. You can't find much of anything that doesn't say made in China at Wal-Mart and most other discount stores.
But you say "those cars are built in the US not Japan". You're right, American workers who could be working for American companies but they're not because our car companies have lost a lot of business, DC is some what of an exception. The profits that they're raking in are going to the home country with tax breaks because of foreign investment credits that we the tax payers end up paying for out of our pockets.
I've bought EVERY BMW or Moto Guzzi motorcycle I ever owned USED
and I've bought THREE NEW HARLEYS!
I bought a Saturn when they were brand new.
I've bought 2 Jeeps.
Yeah, I bought my wife a Mini Cooper, but that's what she wanted (and I don't blame her it's a great car, but remember "happy wife = happy life").
I've always been a firm believer in buying American. Searched forever for an American TV nearly a decade ago, paid a little more for it too. Now, well, that's impossible.
THING IS, DC is a GERMAN company now, so don't fool yourselves.
If I WAS SERIOUS about buying American, shouldn't I REALLY be buying a Chevy or a Ford (and before you answer that, I gave SERIOUS consideration to a Chevy Equinox, but it's a bit pricey with worse fuel mileage).
Anyway, I stopped at the dealer this morning to pick up a part for the Cherokee because I have someone who is interested in it.
While I was there I asked them about prices for the Compass.
Since I bought my last 2 Jeeps there the sales manager rememberd me and just entered the order, printed it out from their computer and handed it to me.
Told me he'd give me straight Invoice MINUS holdback on any order.