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Unread 02-04-2008, 06:29 AM   #46
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I'd like to do this conversion on my 2007 Patriot, but I have three questions.

1.) Will this void the warranty? (3/36 and Lifetime)
2.) Could you post some info on R/R of the shift mechanism?
3.) I assume on the ECM end you are inserting new terminals, where to get them/ PN ?

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Unread 02-04-2008, 12:59 PM   #47
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I'd like to do this conversion on my 2007 Patriot, but I have three questions.

1.) Will this void the warranty? (3/36 and Lifetime)
2.) Could you post some info on R/R of the shift mechanism?
3.) I assume on the ECM end you are inserting new terminals, where to get them/ PN ?

Thanks

1.) The dealer has to prove that what you did caused a problem to void a warranty. My partner in crime on this has had his down to the dealer and they verified that everything was wired correctly. Quality workmanship goes along way to avoid those issues and I think that Jeep may come out with a retro fit kit to do the same thing, just a hunch.
2.) This is going to be part of the full mod instructions. We have our pictures (attachments) back so I may be able to do a preliminary tonight.
3.) It's the TCM that you have to wire into. From what I've heard back on it so far the standard CVT has the wires on the TCM, just not on the Transmission plug so you can just splice some in. I already have the AutoStick so I don't have the standard one to look at.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 04:29 PM   #48
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1.) From what I've heard back on it so far the standard CVT has the wires on the TCM, just not on the Transmission plug so you can just splice some in. I already have the AutoStick so I don't have the standard one to look at.
If the wires are on the TCM, where do we think they are on the other end? Are they just un-terminated near the shifter? If so this would be REALLY easy.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 06:31 PM   #49
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Dumb question but: are you connecting it to the module itself or the plug that goes to the module?
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I spliced into the wiring at the gray plug
That's all I know at this point. The shifter plugs into a 24 pin connector (C201) that appears to be part of the instrument panel wiring but when it comes out at the C2 connector at the TCM the wires are there. Where they are terminated inside the harness is a good question BUT the wiring harness part numbers are different for DHD and CVT. Since I only have the AutoStick to look at we need someone to crawl under their dash and see what's there. It's about where the clutch pedal would be and is the Light Grey connector. Are there wires at the #10 & 12 positions?
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Unread 02-05-2008, 08:37 PM   #50
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The wires are installed at the TCM end. I took some pictures of connector C2 and you can see the two wires.



Question is, where is the other end? I would be surprised if they put these wires in without terminating the other end. Perhaps it's time to look in the console? Anyone know how to get into it?
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Unread 02-06-2008, 09:52 AM   #51
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The wires are installed at the TCM end. I took some pictures of connector C2 and you can see the two wires.



Question is, where is the other end? I would be surprised if they put these wires in without terminating the other end. Perhaps it's time to look in the console? Anyone know how to get into it?
Thanks for the pic!

Here's what you need for the shilter.

Bezel Removal

Fig 1.
1. Pull up on shifter knob (3) and remove.
2. Using trim stick C-4755 or equivalent, separate the bezel (4) from the trim ring (5), if equipped.
3. Remove the screws (2) and using trim stick C-4755 or equivalent, separate the trim ring (5) from the shifter console (6).

Shifter Removal

Fig 2.
4. Remove two screws (1).

Fig 3.
5. Pull on side of housing (1) and unsnap housing tabs.
6. Disconnect console housing wire connector (2) and instrument panel connector (3).
7. Remove from vehicle.

Fig 4.
8. Remove the bolts (1) at the shifter.
9. Separate the shift cable from the shifter.

Fig 5.
10. Lift the shifter enough to gain access to electrical connector.
fig1.jpg   fig2.jpg   fig3.jpg   fig4.jpg   fig5.jpg  

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Fig 6.
11. Unplug the electrical connector at the shifter.
12. Remove the shifter.
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Unread 02-06-2008, 10:01 AM   #53
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in 4x4 lock mode there was no difference in final speed at 2500 rpm: bout 22 MPH is the sweet spot.

I did notice that in "L" idle RPMs are different in 4x4 Lock vs normal mode. compasssport, try this: with 4x4 lock ON and foot on the brake and off the gas (not moving), put it in "D," engine RPM sits about 700 on mine. then put it in "L," again with your foot on the brake and off the gas. my idle RPMs goes up to just under 1000. shift back to "D" OR take off 4x4 lock and RPMs drop back to normal.

so it seems that if Im are in BOTH "L" and 4x4 Lock my idle RPM goes up to almost 1000. anyone else notice this in theirs?
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noticed the same on our jeep... it also feels different when accelerating when in low.

The AutoStick in 1st and 4WD lock does NOT increase the rpm. Fascinating.
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Unread 02-18-2008, 01:27 PM   #54
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The wires at the TCM are part of the Unibody harness. The wires/connector at the shifter are part of the Dash harness. This suggests that there probably are no wires on the Dash side of C201 . It's too cold around these parts to verify right now. But when the weather warms up I'm going to try to retrofit mine.

As long as the TCM and tranny are the same it should work. Keep your fingers crossed
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Good luck! PLEASE keep us posted. If you need anymore info, let me know!
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Good luck! PLEASE keep us posted. If you need anymore info, let me know!
Someone else is trying this? I have lost my contact with jeep engineering. The local rep for our area is no longer around. The dealer says they don’t know when they will get a new one.
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Someone else is trying this? I have lost my contact with jeep engineering. The local rep for our area is no longer around. The dealer says they don’t know when they will get a new one.
g! Now we can all pool our ignorance and see what it takes to get this to work!
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Unread 03-13-2008, 05:57 PM   #58
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Waiting for warmer weather to proceed. I'm in Central Maine, so you may have to wait awhile...
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Unread 04-12-2008, 04:32 PM   #59
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Tried this today

I tried to convert to Autostick today- everything works except, of course, the Autostick I have triple checked all connections and all is good so the Autostick programming must be electronically disabled. I plan to talk real nice with the service department on Monday to see if it possible to enable the Autostick programming.

I did find out that the -/+ switches in the shifter are simple switches that are normally OPEN- which means that there is no way for the TCM to know that they exist. So I am hoping that the service department can simply have their computer talk to my computer and just toggle some setting to enable the Autostick.

Also the current Autostick shifter only use 6 pins- all the grounds are already tied together so I only had to run the -/+ wires. For the remaining wires I just reused the connector off of my original shifter- very easy to do- just release the two white side clips on the connector and push them forward- this will allow the pins to be removed from the connector- no tool needed.

Wish me luck at the Dealer
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Unread 04-15-2008, 05:20 PM   #60
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Autostick is a no go

Service department just called- they cannot enable the autostick feature. I asked about flashing the computer with the program from an autostick equipped Compass and they said it cannot be done because the computer is VIN locked and will only update with programs ok'd for the VIN.

So anyone need a spare autostick shifter and bezel?
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