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Unread 12-06-2006, 08:04 PM   #16
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You crack me up
Check out the pic from MOPAR.com
It's hard to tell from that angle.

http://www.mopar.com/img/mpi/MA_VEH_82208457___T001.jpg

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Unread 12-07-2006, 04:28 AM   #17
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Phil,

If I made you laugh then my day is complete!

Here's an "enhanced picture" of the of the pic on the Mopar Link that Phil sent . Not much to work with but it looks to me that the rear pan would need to be cut out for the factory hitch, another plus in favor of the Hidden Hitch unit.

I want the class III/IV just in case I ever get the opportunity to pull a CJ out of a snow bank or mud whole I can take advantage of it. You bet I'll post the pictures!
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Unread 12-07-2006, 07:00 AM   #18
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That's the same way they installed factory hitches on the WJs.

There was a cutout.

So if you got the factory installed hitch it was nice and neat.

But ever see a WJ with the hidden hitch. UGH, it's completely NOT HIDDEN, doesn't use the cutout and the whole ugly thing hangs down there below the rear bumper.

I'd pay the extra $100 or whatever for the factory hitch in that case.

Of course, in this case it means different size receivers, so that's a toss up. I'm not sure which way I'd go.

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Unread 12-07-2006, 07:48 AM   #19
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Receiver size was my concern but I don't want something that looks like "wheelie bars" either. UGH! More research!
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Unread 12-07-2006, 08:03 AM   #20
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Receiver size was my concern but I don't want something that looks like "wheelie bars" either. UGH! More research!

Well, I'm not saying for certain the HH would look like that on the Compass, but unfortunately until you see one with it mounted or oder one and try to bolt it up, I don't think you'll know for sure (but you can at least suspect).

I've got the smaller receiver on the Scoobie. Doesn't really bother me, though the full size would have been nice so I could have used the recovery hook draw bar and the old draw bar/tow balls I had for the Jeep.

Oh well, no biggie.

I'm sure the smaller size is still more than strong enough for the tow rating of the vehicle.

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Unread 12-07-2006, 08:04 AM   #21
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Well Mopar sells an installation bezel for the Grand Cherokee and the Commander.

You can check this thread to see what I am talking about:
http://www.jeepcommander.com/forums/...ead.php?t=1064

The little picture of the hitch from Mopar does not show enough detail. Plus we have no idea if the aftermarket hitch is the same as the factory installed unit. So until myself or someone else can take decent pictures, we'll just have to keep guessing.
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Unread 12-07-2006, 08:09 AM   #22
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Well, I'm not saying for certain the HH would look like that on the Compass, but unfortunately until you see one with it mounted or oder one and try to bolt it up, I don't think you'll know for sure (but you can at least suspect).

I've got the smaller receiver on the Scoobie. Doesn't really bother me, though the full size would have been nice so I could have used the recovery hook draw bar and the old draw bar/tow balls I had for the Jeep.

Oh well, no biggie.

I'm sure the smaller size is still more than strong enough for the tow rating of the vehicle.

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Oh, it's that "Tim Taylor" thing, bigger is better.
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Oh, it's that "Tim Taylor" thing, bigger is better.

There really is no need for us little cross-over ute owners to overcompensate my friend... on multiple levels.
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There really is no need for us little cross-over ute owners to overcompensate my friend... on multiple levels.

Actually it's a good neighbor thing. My friend next door has MS and about his only joy is playing with his VW bodied trike. He has broken down and asked if I could trailer his buggy back for him but with the rusted out bumper on my old Dodge truck that was my trade in I had to say no. I don't want to have to say no to him a second time. Some one has taken the original receiver off of wifes GC, so that's not available either.
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Actually it's a good neighbor thing. My friend next door has MS and about his only joy is playing with his VW bodied trike. He has broken down and asked if I could trailer his buggy back for him but with the rusted out bumper on my old Dodge truck that was my trade in I had to say no. I don't want to have to say no to him a second time. Some one has taken the original receiver off of wifes GC, so that's not available either.

Point remains the same. The OE hitch really ought to be able to pull whatever the vehicle is capable of.

Yeah lawyers put whatever on labels etc, but we're only talking about a 2k lbs capacity here. I'm sure even the smaller size hitch and draw bars are up to the test.
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Kev,

Thanks, I'll take that into consideration. Phil likes the higher height of the stock one if it turns out that way. Got a few things to think about.
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Unread 12-07-2006, 09:53 AM   #27
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All things equal, the higher height is going to help make sure your tongue is level without needing as large a step-up on the draw bar.

Or you can use a step-up bar to tilt the tongue slightly and cheat some of the tongue weight off.

(can you guess I've looked at this problem from multiple angles before).

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I might be getting my hitch soon!! It's my b-day this weekend and I'm hoping (read: expecting) it. I'm pretty sure my girlfriend, who is lousy at keeping secrets, called the dealership, so an OEM it will be.

Speaking of secrets, don't tell her I told you this

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Better picture of the rear pan along with the left & right frame rails.
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Unread 12-11-2006, 07:32 AM   #30
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I was spoiled rotten for my bday.
My girlfriend bought me both the hitch receiver and the bike carrier.
Both are Mopar oem. The hitch receiver is specifically made for the Compass and Patriot. It comes with a template to cut out part of bumper like in the pictures Gramps took, but the "cut-out" isn't removed completely. It's quite seamless. The kit comes with a black rubber seal to put around the cut-out area once removed - to protect the paint.
She even bought me the Mopar hitch plug...but we were surprised to find that the hitch came with a "Jeep" logo plug.

The bike carrier is sweet as I find the bike holder part much more secure than the Thule and the Swagman I was looking into. It also folds down to allow access to the car’s hatch while not having to remove the whole assembly.

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