I compared the stock 17" rim/tire specs to the Ravine's with 30x9.5's via an online calculator:
Inner Clearance: 4.05mm or 0.16in less
Outer Position: extend by 34.05mm or 1.31in
Diameter difference: 2.43" (7.98%)
It looks like I would probably need spacers to clear the brakes as the inner lip actually moves inward and not outward like would aid in a 15" rim clearing the brakes. Cheap steelies are the price of good spacers so now decisions decisions... I guess I could keep the tires and sell the ravines to pay for new soft 8's.
For a variety of reasons I am not ready to lift the Patriot anyway. Among them is horrible experiences (both personal -but several years old- and personally witnessed) with Rocky Road. They have put out lifts in the past that are so poorly designed that they caused damage to the vehicle and it took them years to quit selling them. The KJ OTT is an example of this. Just this week I personally witnessed them lying about having items in stock and shipping times. Against my advice a friend ordered a TJ spare wheel spacer through RRO several weeks ago. This is a common part available from a dozen sources. RRO said no problem it would be here in a week. 8 days out without a shipping update & he calls them and gets the standard BS response of " we are backed up in the warehouse and just couldn't get it shipped so it will be another week."
This has been shown in the past to be their lie when they sell an item they do not have in stock and then string you along to keep the sale. This continues for 3 more weeks before he cancels the order and demands a refund ( which has yet to be credited!). RRO has a l o n g history of such shenanigans. So I am not yet ready to deal with such an unscrupulous company and they are the only game in town. I can't imagine anyone paying $700 for a CRDSTU lift that only gives you 1" of lift as it does with the newer 4x4 MK's so that is out as an option. As far as I know those are the only options?