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Unread 09-09-2007, 04:55 PM   #1
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2007 Patriot Models... Dealer Deals?

We are about to purchase a Patriot with the off road crawl ratio transmission for definite off road use. We were going to get a Ford Escape Hybrid for fuel economy (but no off road ability) but then stumbled on the Patriot. We are avid campers but husband's 1957 Physco Billy M38A1/CJ5 is no longer going to fit the bill with our new 5 month old daughter. While that Jeep can be reserved for serious off roading (ie, Rubicon), this one will be for heading off down forest roads and onto class 5 and lower trails.

Has anyone put the Patriot to the test for such roads and trails?

There are so many 2007's on the lot but we don't want many of the features frequently offered on vehicles off the lot (Nav, bluetooth, Sirius). Ones that have the crawl ratio but not quite as spec'd out are often missing the Tow package - we want to tow our 1954 Dunbar Kapple M100 trailer to haul our camping gear.

Does anyone have any ideas if between now and the end of the year if Jeep will be moving it's 2007 stock and offering incentives? Like the $4,500 on many of it's other models or 0% financing? And will it continue to offer the lifetime warranty on the drive train?

It would bite if we built and ordered exactly what we wanted, have it arrive in two months only to have Jeep come out with some great incentives on the remaining 2007 models. The dealer in our area is starting to carry 2008's.

Thanks!

ETA: if this is not the right forum please advise. Not sure where the best Patriot forum is for this.

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Unread 09-09-2007, 05:35 PM   #2
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safaribabe you're in the right place and !

The Patriots haven't been out very long and have generally gone for near full price especially for the off-road package. Some of the dealers have given some breaks on pricing but not Jeep as a whole. I would not expect to see a significant price drop on what your looking for. As far as the trail worthy part, from what I've read, they could do a class 2 with no problems or mods, a class 3 and above could take some work. The Lifetime Powertrain warranty is a new offering and I would expect it to continue for several years to come.

Here is a link to one of our members who got a few shots on his maiden voyage:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/patriot-freedom-drive-ii-offroad-pics-449757/

The Patriot with the Off-Road package has the engine oil cooler already installed, the only other item that is included with the Trailer Tow package is the wiring harness that is in a bag in the rear compartment, no factory installation. The hitch itself is not included at all. Here are the instructions for that:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/anyone-have-hitch-hitch-installation-346762/
That trailer that you mentioned is pretty heavy duty , I hope that it's not over 2000 lbs fully loaded. Really, they don't make them like that any more!

And here is another link with articles listings and a test drive. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/patriot-limited-fd-ii-test-drive-402333/
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Unread 09-09-2007, 07:57 PM   #3
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Thanks so much for your speedy reply! I have spent the past few days looking for Patriot information on this site.... some great stuff. Particularly for the overall enthusiasm for the Patriot. If you went by the comments on the YouTube videos of the Patriot, you would think the Patriot is a piece of junk.


What is your take on the fact that the most decked out Limited rarely includes the front seat side air bags? They have all the electronic gadgetry but rarely this added safety feature. I was wondering why.


Husband says that the jeep never tows over 2,000lbs. It weighs about 500 unloaded and the most you would want to put in it is about 1,000 lbs. We had alot of fun with it on our last camping trip. Too bad I can't post pics! Have some pics of the baby sleeping on a front pack crossing a river.... the jeep noise and motion put her right to sleep.
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Unread 09-10-2007, 04:10 AM   #4
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Thanks so much for your speedy reply! I have spent the past few days looking for Patriot information on this site.... some great stuff. Particularly for the overall enthusiasm for the Patriot. If you went by the comments on the YouTube videos of the Patriot, you would think the Patriot is a piece of junk.


What is your take on the fact that the most decked out Limited rarely includes the front seat side air bags? They have all the electronic gadgetry but rarely this added safety feature. I was wondering why.


Husband says that the jeep never tows over 2,000lbs. It weighs about 500 unloaded and the most you would want to put in it is about 1,000 lbs. We had alot of fun with it on our last camping trip. Too bad I can't post pics! Have some pics of the baby sleeping on a front pack crossing a river.... the jeep noise and motion put her right to sleep.
I guess that I don’t place much value on the opinions of the “have nots” that do a 10 minute review. Just the CVT takes some getting used to and a 5 mile test drive isn’t going to do it.

There was a problem getting the seat side air bags on the Compass, too. I believe that it was a vendor problem. They use the same seats so that may still be what it is.

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And I would think that if you can get the trailer through to where your going the Patriot can tow it. You may want to talk to the dealer about throwing in the wiring harness for the Tow Package. As a factory supplied item it’s only $50, to buy it later it’s over $100. I have found it for just under $90 but that’s with out shipping.

I had the trail ratings backwards in a previous post. Here's a link: http://www.glfwda.org/trail-ratings.html
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Unread 09-10-2007, 09:57 AM   #5
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my mistake!

No, I think _I_ had the trail ratings wrong... definitely NOT looking to do a class 5 with the Patriot! More like 1, 2, maybe 3 but doubtful.

Thanks for the tip on the cost of the tow wiring. Our dealer has one on the lot that has a few too many extras for our tastes but if we do decide to see if he will deal on that one, the wiring might be a good point as it has everything but the tow package (or the $50 wiring part at least).
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Unread 09-10-2007, 08:10 PM   #6
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Dealer talked himself down on an 07 Limited for my daughter. We went in to order an 08. He had one 07 left. Sticker was $27,015, purchase price 23,780. Much better than the sticker only price we got a couple of months ago.
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Hi Ole Yeller,

What were the specs on the car? It looks like we are going to get one tonight! Dealer wants $27,340 for a fully equipped 2007 Limited including the $500 rebate. It has Nav, Sirius, Sound upgrade, Convenience group, etc. Only think that is not on it that I can tell is the front air bags ($250) and tow. ($50). He is wiling to drop it to $25,718. I am in California in the Bay Area so I am sure prices are a bit different than rest of world.

Think it's a good deal? Are you and your daughter happy with your car?

ETA: We actually weren't going to get the Nav, Sirius and the Sound. THe car we built online came to about $25,055. So for $663, we are getting quite a few upgrades.
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Unread 09-12-2007, 12:07 PM   #8
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From what I could tell, the only thing missing was the offroad package.
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