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Unread 09-30-2007, 01:07 PM   #1
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your opinion on the SWB JK

Ok, in order to relate this to tech, I'll pose it as a devils advocete questions: with the availability (and popularity) of the 4 door wrangler, do you think Jeep would ever discontinue the SWB 2 door wrangler? What in your opinion are the advantages of the SWB JK that the 4 door can't match?

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Unread 09-30-2007, 01:14 PM   #2
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Not a chance. The 2dr is the most capable off-road JEEP and the staple of the product line.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 01:21 PM   #3
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Not a chance. The 2dr is the most capable off-road JEEP and the staple of the product line.
I totally agree.

I have a 4dr, and went off-roading with a bunch of 2dr yesterday. I'll just say that the 4dr is a very capable off-road vehicle. BUT... The 2dr is better. The longer wheelbase of the 4dr means it will high-center in situations where the 2dr will just go right over. The longer wheelbase also means there are turns where you really have to plan and set up for the turn- like a hard right turn in the woods with an obstacle. Those 2dr jeeps would just swing thru the turn with no problem. I would have to swing as far left as the woods would allow and swing a bit wide to prevent the back end from hitting the obstacle. There were a couple times where the turn was so sharp that I would have to go part way, then back up, then continue thru.

The 4dr with that longer wheelbase makes it a more "practical" vehicle for families, but the 2dr is a better off road traveler.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 02:31 PM   #4
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I agree. Having both a 2dr TJ and 4dr JK, the Two doors are much more manueverable. That said, the 4dr has a lot of advantages, better ride, more stable, more storage, easier backseat in and out to name a few. The 4dr is VERY capable offroad and there are times that a longer wheelbase can come in handy.

I dont think that it is a question of 2dr OR 4dr. They both have their place and people that will prefer both types. Why choose when you can have both.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 02:52 PM   #5
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Never... its too agile.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 03:04 PM   #6
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Although there are no circumstances under which I would buy one, the SWB version is very popular with many people and a good seller. Chrysler would have to be foolish to kill off the vehicle that most people think of when they hear the word "Jeep".

That said, sales figures demonstrate that they were pretty foolish to wait so long to bring out the LWB version. So, even though it would be foolish, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they announced the end of the SWB at some point in the future.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 03:08 PM   #7
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They won't, because since the JK, the 4 door brought more people into show rooms, and they ended up with the 2 door, they actually sold more, plus the 2door allows them to offer a 20-21K jeep which they don't in the 4 door. It is a market that is still strong.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 03:43 PM   #8
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The 4dr is VERY capable offroad and there are times that a longer wheelbase can come in handy.
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Curious- is there any off- road situations where a longer wheelbase would be better?

Ever since yesterday's run, I've been trying to think of an off road situation where a longer wheelbase would be better, and I can't think of any.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 04:01 PM   #9
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Curious- is there any off- road situations where a longer wheelbase would be better?

Ever since yesterday's run, I've been trying to think of an off road situation where a longer wheelbase would be better, and I can't think of any.
Longer wheelbase is more stable on climbs and decents. A SWB will go over frontwards or backwards before a LWB will. Really though, it is obstacle dependent. Sometimes being nimble helps, sometimes being stable helps.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 04:18 PM   #10
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Curious- is there any off- road situations where a longer wheelbase would be better?

Ever since yesterday's run, I've been trying to think of an off road situation where a longer wheelbase would be better, and I can't think of any.
It is obstacle dependent. I have one obstacle on a trail that i drive where i have to negotiate two big rocks. With my TJ, I go over the first rock and am up against the second rock as my rear tire hits the first...you with me on that one? So now i have to climb both rocks at one time, front and back. The JK's extended wheelbase allows me to get up on top of the second rock as my rear hits the first...making it a lot easier to go over as i am doing it one at a time. There is also a gully that is the same way only in reverse.

But the vast majority of the time, the SWB is better.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 04:33 PM   #11
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I sold my TJ for my 4 door, and my buddy who bought my TJ cant follow me up several hills. Im amazed at how much better the extra length is for climbing.
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Unread 09-30-2007, 04:46 PM   #12
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Curious- is there any off- road situations where a longer wheelbase would be better?

Ever since yesterday's run, I've been trying to think of an off road situation where a longer wheelbase would be better, and I can't think of any.
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Unread 10-01-2007, 01:09 PM   #13
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WOW - this is a tough one.
I had a '98 TJ and I loved it. It was plagued with problem after problem, so I had to sell it. I thought I was done with Jeeps until I saw a 4-dr JK on the road for the 1st time.

I started making plans ASAP to get one. When the time came to actually find one and strike a deal. Somehting made me look at the 2-dr - when I drove it, it just felt more like a Jeep to me. I am a very avid cyclist, surfer and kayaker. I knew the 4-dr was so much more practical for my gear, but the 2-dr just gave me the warm & fuzzy I missed from my TJ. They make racks for the rest of the stuff
I had 100% intention of owning a 4-dr, but I ended up with the 2dr and don't regret it at all. Hauling my gear around could be easier, but it's so much fun to drive. With the 4.10's it's pretty peppy - it just feels like a big powerwheels from when you were a kid. The 4-dr to me felt like any other SUV from a driving perspective.
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Unread 10-01-2007, 01:15 PM   #14
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While I love my 4door, the 2 door is the iconic image people think of when the word Jeep is used and won't ever go away.
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Unread 10-01-2007, 02:01 PM   #15
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Sixty years of two doors aren't going to die soon...

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