On a Dr. Z commercial, he hints that a new cleaner deisel is in the works. The one with the dirty Jeeps and the kids. Maybe it's going to be a big surprise
To be honest, I don't see the big deal with a diesel in a Wrangler. The only advantage would be crawling I guess. Besides, they are horrible for the already crappy environment. Just wouldn't be a practical engine type for a Wrangler. Nothing against diesels but I just feel they are more useful for towing and working, not cruising and trailing. But no offense it is just an opinion. Oh yah, also I just can't see the problem with ethanol (flex-fuel options you were talking about in Commander and GC)... well just a reminder.... it is a high octane fuel that is also well suited for racing (indy is going to use 100% ethanol for '07) and intense off-roading situations (pretty much lots of high performance situations), sorry to say your gasoline engines will be obsolete one day lol. Look at it this way, at the rate we are going with fossil fuel all the Jeeps we drive today will soon be worthless. Anyways, I'm pretty sure that by the time our fearless leader....Bush... leaves the office gas prices will be insane so it would be to our best interest to support "domestic fuel sources". Little off topic lol
"5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions."
Completely stock (just bought it)
Last edited by SAB0602; 08-16-2006 at 03:20 PM.
Originally Posted by SAB0602
Your crazy! A CRD would be a sweet motor for crawling sence it is all torque at LOW RPMS. Plus you can tow more and it gets BETTER MPG'S!!!! If you care about the enviornment don't get ANY Jeep! Get a effing Prius.
How's come the pics don't work anymore?
I'm still pretty sure everyone's saying that the CRD's are going out of the country, not to you.
Originally Posted by 4.0v8eater
1995 YJ Rio Grande
Originally Posted by tolnep
I am a sales coordinator for a Customs Broker/Freight Forwarder in Detroit. I do not deal with importing engines very often but I do arrange freight for just about everything under the sun. Importing an engine that is not DOT and EPA approved is extremely difficult, expensive, and time consuming. There are TWO, yes only TWO, facilities in the entire U.S. that are certified to modify and install vehicles/engine to bring them up to EPA and DOT standards. As you can imagine, the wait to even have your vehicle/engine modified is very long. On top of that, it is outrageously expensive. The bottom line is can you import a CRD into the states? Yes. Is it going to be easy? Nope, not a chance. A couple examples of horror stories and why we are just going to have to wait until DC sells Wranglers with the CRD.....
We had a client who brought over a rare, older Mercedes from Germany. We advised him that it was going to be next to impossible to import and, should he choose to do so, was going to be very costly. Well, this guy had a sentimental attachment to this Mercedes and chose to bring it in. The car was valued at just over $8,000. He waited a year and two months for it to be upgraded/modified and finally clear Customs. It cost him $20,000 just to have the car modified. That did not include the actual cost of shipping (usually between $3500-$4200), the duty, and our fees for the forwarding and clearance.
In May we had a client import, from China, 50 of those little miniature motorcycles. Naturally, Customs rejected the shipment. This guy felt that if he complained to everyone and their mother at Customs, EPA, and DOT that they would eventually clear his freight just to make him go away. Wrong. Meanwhile, his freight was sitting in our warehouse taking up 8,000 square feet and accumulating quite a bit of storage. Well, at the end of last month, I guess he gave up. He quit calling us, did not return our calls, and did not pay the company a dime. He just abandoned the freight. So, now we are stuck with 50 miniature motorcycles that are taking up 8k sq ft and will probably have to turn the bikes over to Customs to destroy.
Ok, i've gone on long enough, but you get the point
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ - Red
2.5L 4cyl - 5 speed
33 x 12.5 x 15 Mastercraft Courser MT
10" Kicker Compvx Subwoofer
350W Kicker Amp
A big back seat for some fun with the lady friends
Originally Posted by SAB0602
Some more advangages of Diesel, Much better fuel econmy, more power, the ability to run biofuels with little or no modification. I've seen the crd liberty run on 100% biodiesel!! With no modification. And you get the close to the same fuel milage. With ethanal you lose 10-15% fuel economy, and you have to have a vehicle designed to run it!(E85) There is alot more opportunity with diesel engines. Look at volkswagen my 85 diesel got 50mpg!! People need to open up there eyes and see that diesels aren't just chattering smoking engines anymore!!
Oh, by the way I think Dr. Z stole the pictures in this thread!
09 JKU Sahara
Originally Posted by T.H's Jeeps
For example a monte carlo gets 21/31 on gas but falls to 16/23 on E85. Even more outrageous is that its is more expensive than gasoline! Hmmm, less MPG = more $ to oil companies. More subsidies to farm lobbyists (corn growers here in the midwest). Not a good deal IMO. It still doest even dent the middle east dependence....
Biodiesel is a win for farmers and the diesel engine gets far, far better MPG- but that means less $ to oil companies - it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out which one -E85 or biodiesel is going to pushed.
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