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post #31 of 46 Old 09-27-2011, 03:35 PM
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Double Necro-ed! This thread was born.... died for a year... revived.... dead for a year.... and revived again.

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I have found that 35"s and flatts will rub but only on off road use. For me I will be OK 99% of the time. Have decided to go with 4" procomp lift. A lift is not that expensive and never have to worry about how hard I hit a trail. I spent $2,000. You can put in Bump stops and not lift it but you will loose travel. Thanks for all the advice...
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post #32 of 46 Old 10-02-2011, 09:45 PM
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Re-revived is not bad. This is just the info I was looking for after getting my first Jeep just a week ago. Seems like the attitude here is very "pro-lift." Over at JK-forum.com, they seem more cautious about lift with lots of people reporting denied warranty claims because of lift. To be honest, if 35's fit without lift and without extended bump stops (many reports of levelling kit and flat flares with no rub at full flex with 4.0" or less backspace), why spend $2,000 on an item that will void your warranty? Maybe after the warranty period is out, but for now, I don't see the benefit of making a top heavy jeep that wants to roll over on or off-road. If you have the JKU and need the additional breakover angle, that's different. But, I have the 2 door and every obstacle that has been unpassable for me has been because of minimum ground clearance, not breakover angle.
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Re-revived is not bad. This is just the info I was looking for after getting my first Jeep just a week ago. Seems like the attitude here is very "pro-lift." Over at JK-forum.com, they seem more cautious about lift with lots of people reporting denied warranty claims because of lift. To be honest, if 35's fit without lift and without extended bump stops (many reports of levelling kit and flat flares with no rub at full flex with 4.0" or less backspace), why spend $2,000 on an item that will void your warranty? Maybe after the warranty period is out, but for now, I don't see the benefit of making a top heavy jeep that wants to roll over on or off-road. If you have the JKU and need the additional breakover angle, that's different. But, I have the 2 door and every obstacle that has been unpassable for me has been because of minimum ground clearance, not breakover angle.
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post #34 of 46 Old 10-04-2011, 10:11 AM
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I run KM2 35's without a lift... for now. 4.75" backspacing on the wheels, factory fenders chopped and air dam removed. I made a make shift adjustment to the factory bump stops as a precaution, but I have zero rubbing at full flex.

Just a reference for the next time this is pulled up in 2012.
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Just a reference for the next time this is pulled up in 2012.
I never thought that my (newbie at the time) thread question would still be active after all this time. I have since changed the setup but it worked for me except that those 325/60/20 (KM2's) rubbed on the bumper so bad, I removed it until I installed a 2.5" TF Spring Lift, which I hated, and then (a week later) got the AEV 3.5" Premium lift and have enjoyed Jeep bliss, lol.
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FWIW, I've been running my 35" goodyears (a TRUE 35" tire) on my stock suspension for about a week now and I've had very little rubbing. I trimmed the pinch seam, air dam, and removed the rear fender liners. The only thing it hits now is the most inner corner of the front bumper at full turn WHILE MOVING. At stand still or slow crawl, no issue.

I won't take it off road until I lift it, but it is possible to live with, if you drive carefully.

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I cut my factory fenders and running a 1 3/4 leveling kit with longer shocks. I can stuff my front and rear tires and make them rub. No issues on the front but the rear cuts the tires on the upper lip of the fender well. I have trimmed the pinch seam and some of the lip with a BFH, only fix for mine is bump stop extensions.

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FWIW, I've been running my 35" goodyears (a TRUE 35" tire) on my stock suspension for about a week now and I've had very little rubbing. I trimmed the pinch seam, air dam, and removed the rear fender liners. The only thing it hits now is the most inner corner of the front bumper at full turn WHILE MOVING. At stand still or slow crawl, no issue.

I won't take it off road until I lift it, but it is possible to live with, if you drive carefully.
What do you mean a true 35" tire? I haven't seen any tires that are marketed as 35's that don't measure 35" unladen, at max pressure, which is how they are rated.

Even so, if you have a bias ply tire that takes 30 psi and has lots of sidewall flex and only measures 34" when laden, it will still measure 17.5" from center of wheel to top of tire, because only the lower half of the tire is being loaded with the vehicle weight and being deformed. The bias ply tire will still need the same amount of fender clearance as a stiff tire like the kevlar sidewalled MTR That handles 50 psi will measure 34.8 laden, but it still measures 17.5" from center to top of tire. It just has less flex on the bottom end, which makes for good tire life, gas mileage and on road manners, at the expense of grip. That's why all of the competition tires are bias ply and aren't favored for daily drivers.
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I cut my factory fenders and running a 1 3/4 leveling kit with longer shocks. I can stuff my front and rear tires and make them rub. No issues on the front but the rear cuts the tires on the upper lip of the fender well. I have trimmed the pinch seam and some of the lip with a BFH, only fix for mine is bump stop extensions.
Now that I have run it on a lot of trails, I see that I have the same issue. Whats the favored bump stop material, hockey pucks?
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2013 Bump!

Finally may have convinced the wife to go up to 35s on hers, now that she has a short commute.

All you guys saying 35s with flat fenders are fine, I'm assuming you have aftermarket wheels? I like the stock 17s, and would prefer to keep them if possible without adding wheel-spacers, but I assume that's unrealistic.

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Finally may have convinced the wife to go up to 35s on hers, now that she has a short commute.

All you guys saying 35s with flat fenders are fine, I'm assuming you have aftermarket wheels? I like the stock 17s, and would prefer to keep them if possible without adding wheel-spacers, but I assume that's unrealistic.
Yes you'll need spacers with the stock wheels. the 35" tires are wider and taller. Both cause them to make contact sooner when turning. you'll probably also need to trim the pinch seam.

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Revived again. I'm about to try BW flares, 2.5" Metalcloak 2 door springs on a 4 door, with 35s and see what needs to be done to make it work off-road.

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Revived again. I'm about to try BW flares, 2.5" Metalcloak 2 door springs on a 4 door, with 35s and see what needs to be done to make it work off-road.
That should be about perfect! I run cut stock fenders, 35s, with a 2.5'' OME (came out to more like 3'' tbh) and here's me doing some flexing:



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