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Unread 02-20-2008, 11:23 AM   #1
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I am new to winches and not sure what to really look for on them..


what weight should I go for and are there any brands to stay away from? not even sure if I am asking the right questions

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I just make a BOOP BEEP sound with my mouth (really loud) as I walk away from the jeep, and point the key at it.
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lets put it a way a kids will relate......its like a hooker.......... SURE a 15 dollar handy from a detroit toothless 60 year old can get it done....... but NO where is it as nice as the $5000 an hour goddess from vegas or hollywood

....... dont be that fat guy on the beach in the speedo you dont want to be "that guy"
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Unread 02-20-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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Unread 02-20-2008, 12:11 PM   #3
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I am new to winches and not sure what to really look for on them..


what weight should I go for and are there any brands to stay away from? not even sure if I am asking the right questions
TAke the weight of your rig loaded with every concievalble thing you might have in it and double it. Most guys run JK's with 9,000lb winches. You might be OK w/ an 8K, but if you're gonna do it, do it right.

As for whose to buy... I have a Warn/Tabor 9K and less than a 3 months into it, my freespool locked up. It had a bad seal and all the planetary gears rusted out. That was a fluke, but for the most part your big names make good stuff (Warn, Superwinch, Ramsey, etc..) The difference between most good winches and bad ones are the beating they'll take. Good strong winches can make long pulls at max load and not burn up. Cheap ones can be disposable. Winch technology is sick now - features/benefits are off the scale and its just a matter of what you want to spend. Chances are, if its cheap, then its cheap. Case in point - my winch. I tried to save and bought Warn's value winch and I had major problems with it. I would rethink next time.

Think about it - this is something that you are buying with intent to rely on in a bad situation. Its not a creature comfort. Buying a cheap winch is no different than buying cheap insurance. Good luck counting on it when you need it.
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Unread 02-20-2008, 12:12 PM   #4
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gonna be sitting on the Rugged Ridge Modular Bumper
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I just make a BOOP BEEP sound with my mouth (really loud) as I walk away from the jeep, and point the key at it.
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lets put it a way a kids will relate......its like a hooker.......... SURE a 15 dollar handy from a detroit toothless 60 year old can get it done....... but NO where is it as nice as the $5000 an hour goddess from vegas or hollywood

....... dont be that fat guy on the beach in the speedo you dont want to be "that guy"
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Unread 02-20-2008, 12:15 PM   #5
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TAke the weight of your rig loaded with every concievalble thing you might have in it and double it. Most guys run JK's with 9,000lb winches. You might be OK w/ an 8K, but if you're gonna do it, do it right.

As for whose to buy... I have a Warn/Tabor 9K and less than a 3 months into it, my freespool locked up. It had a bad seal and all the planetary gears rusted out. That was a fluke, but for the most part your big names make good stuff (Warn, Superwinch, Ramsey, etc..) The difference between most good winches and bad ones are the beating they'll take. Good strong winches can make long pulls at max load and not burn up. Cheap ones can be disposable. Winch technology is sick now - features/benefits are off the scale and its just a matter of what you want to spend. Chances are, if its cheap, then its cheap. Case in point - my winch. I tried to save and bought Warn's value winch and I had major problems with it. I would rethink next time.

Think about it - this is something that you are buying with intent to rely on in a bad situation. Its not a creature comfort. Buying a cheap winch is no different than buying cheap insurance. Good luck counting on it when you need it.


Thank you!! I was wondering about some cheaper winches if they would hold up
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I just make a BOOP BEEP sound with my mouth (really loud) as I walk away from the jeep, and point the key at it.
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lets put it a way a kids will relate......its like a hooker.......... SURE a 15 dollar handy from a detroit toothless 60 year old can get it done....... but NO where is it as nice as the $5000 an hour goddess from vegas or hollywood

....... dont be that fat guy on the beach in the speedo you dont want to be "that guy"
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Unread 02-20-2008, 01:48 PM   #6
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True what they say about cheap winches, but, years ago I spent close to $1K on a warn top of the line winch and had it hanging off the from of my truck for years and never used it except to pull out someone else. This time I'm saving the money, buying a cheaper winch and putting the money into other accessories. Besides, you can get a forever warranty from some retailers that covers it no matter what you do to kill it..... This is just my 2 cents........
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Unread 02-20-2008, 01:54 PM   #7
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True what they say about cheap winches, but, years ago I spent close to $1K on a warn top of the line winch and had it hanging off the from of my truck for years and never used it except to pull out someone else. This time I'm saving the money, buying a cheaper winch and putting the money into other accessories. Besides, you can get a forever warranty from some retailers that covers it no matter what you do to kill it..... This is just my 2 cents........
Again, its insurance. You might never need it or you might use it every time you wheel. As far as the warranty... that's great and all, but what good will a warranty do you if the winch takes a dump when you end up in a ditch or hanging off a cliff. Maybe I'm bitter, but I've gotten effe'd by lots of warranty's. Many times, the money saved isn't worth the hassle and BS of diagnosis, getting a claim, waiting for parts - yada yada yada. Get the good stuff when liability/safety is an issue. Actually, since I already commented, that's my 4 cents
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Unread 02-20-2008, 02:02 PM   #8
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I have had a Mile Marker 9500se for 3 years now, and it works great!!. I did have one problem with it when I was pulling out a 3/4 ton truck (I know too heavy) the motor stopped. I called Mile Marker and they did not ask any questions they just sent me a new motor. I have friends that have had several warns fail that is why I went with the Mile Marker. No matter what brand you decide on I would suggest getting a series wound motor and not a permenate magnet.

Another suggesetion is buy a pull pal. It sucks having a winch getting stuck and there is nothing around to hook up to.
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Unread 02-20-2008, 03:53 PM   #9
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good choice on the bumper! I have a Mile Marker SI9500. I did have a PE8000 but several solenoids failures later they sent me a SI9500. No matter what people say all brands have had failures so you make your choice. I must say, even with the solenoid failures, MM had great customer service!
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Unread 02-20-2008, 04:33 PM   #10
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... MM had great customer service!
I agree!! Great Customer service
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Unread 02-20-2008, 05:44 PM   #11
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Warn is very popular and is a good winch but expensive. I have the Warn 9.5ti. I opted for it because of the integrated solenoid, series wound motor, and is more sealed off than many other winches. My intent is that my JK will be useful as a hurricane rescue vehicle in high water (I was waist deep in water during Hurricane Rita, and I was Jeepless). I've seen the Warn 9.5ti as high as $1,300, but if you look around, you can get some deals on it. I got mine from someone on this forum new in the box for only $800. Another good choice with excellent reviews and much better pricing is the Superwinch EPi 9.0. It is similar to my Warn and a lot less expensive, while still being a very good product. In reviews and tests, it equaled the Warn. I've seen it for around $600. To me, that's a bargain. It's what I would have bought if I would not have found the good deal I did on my Warn. I'm not big into winches, but I need it to be there and to work when I do need it.
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Unread 02-20-2008, 06:35 PM   #12
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look around..there are some good deals on some 8000lb winches..Harbor freight has a mile marker for around $300.00...no sense in getting a Warn..too pricey for what you get. No need for over 8000lb either
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Warn 9.5Ti is the best one to get but expensive. I bought a Superwinch EPi 9.0 and a 11,000# Pull-pal for same price. Superwinch also draws less amperage.


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personally, I'm trying to decide between which to drop into my Shrockworks bumper:

the Smittybilt XRC8 is $284 (free shipping)

The Mile Marker PE8000 is $379 (free shipping)
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