I have the wire Smitty 8K....It's worked when I needed it to, but I wish I had the Ramsey. Their 8.5 is about $500, and US made, unlike ALL the others. (Warn's high end is still US).
Unless you need the 10-12K pull for non-recovery, it really is overkill to have such a heavy winch. Your suspension and mileage will hate you!
...and they should all come with a roller lead if they're wire or fairlead if they're synthetic.....
I'm just here for the gasoline. --Max
General rule of thumb, winch sizing is 1-1/2 times (1.5x) your GVWR. Most cases - except extreme modded bumpers, winch, armor, tires, sliders, etc. - a 9000 to 10000 lb winch will do fine for a JK. You can also purchase a snatch block to increase your recovery pull power.
Interesting note: the Warn M8000 winch - a relatively cost-friendly winch at $750 (ball-park) - seems to use the same DC motor and gearing as the short-spooled "9.5RC" rock-crawling winch that retails for over $1400. How Warn claims that one winch can pull 8000lbs vs the other at 9500lbs while both use the same DC motor and gears I am not certain, but it is certainly food for thought. Perhaps the red paint and the special advertising/packaging lets the winch tow more??? lol
Winches rated pull is at the first course of rope/cable - is the spool diameter the same for both winches?
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Ok, here's the deal. A while back, I mentioned that an off road magazine was doing another winch shootout. I'm sure many of you remember some years back and they did a head to head with Warn, Superwinch, Harbor Freight, etc... Well, another one has happened and is in the current July issue of Four Wheeler magazine. Eight winches were tested. Six winches were destroyed during the course of the tests. Only two survived and one of which was the Engo E9000... and it made it look like a breeze and passed with flying colors. In my opinion after reading the article, I personally think the Engo should have come in first place in the competition, but the testers put silly stuff like 60 points for remote control function and ergonomics as more important than whether it passed water, stall, speed, etc tests. :shaking:
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