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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:52 PM   #121
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Hmmm, yeah...I probably dont know what I'm talking about...but you do:

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Your jeep is going to look very weird with a 3.5" lift and 33s. Besides the fact that you will ruin the handling of it, you didn't actually gain any use out of it since your axles are still not any higher...so your none of categories for lifting the jeep get met.

1) Offroad effectiveness.....nope.
2) Appearance.....nope.
3) Added clearance? Nope.

Don't do it.

For offroading, you want the minimum whatever to get the job done. You want the biggest tire you can afford/run and just enough lift to clear them.
Please...bite your tongue, clean off......you post stuff that is factually inaccurate, then when called on you try to take others posts out of context. And, when talking LIFT....we are referring to the lift kit there stud, not the lift in height.....You diin't bother reading the whole thread, you posted stuff that was borderline idiotic....but hey, hey did post some cool oversaturated pics of your MOAB trip at every friggin forum.

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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:54 PM   #122
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You want to get MAXIMUM articulation with MINIMAL lift...which is what was done on the JK I posted.
Oh, the JK you posted is linked with coilovers?

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clearly you know better
Clearly you don't
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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:55 PM   #123
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For offroading, you want the minimum whatever to get the job done. You want the biggest tire you can afford/run and just enough lift to clear them.

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I didn't say "buy the most expensive big *** tires." I said buy the tires you want and do enough to clear their travel.
Wrong again my friend....but lets not derail this, we'll just agree to disagree.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:56 PM   #124
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Wrong again my friend....but lets not derail this, we'll just agree to disagree.
That was the sentence I said I mispoke. I meant to say to get the biggest tires you WANT and run enough lift to clear them. I clarified this in my earlier post, but again, if you want to latch on to a sentence, not much I can do.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 05:59 PM   #125
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Latch onto one sentence? Or just one really dumb sentence at a time......oh, and pot. thy name is kettle.

Damn it, this is actually the first time I've gotten angry on this forum.....
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:02 PM   #126
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Latch onto one sentence? Or just one really dumb sentence at a time......
Real mature. Anyway, do as you see fit on your vehicles.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:03 PM   #127
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Real mature. Anyway, do as you see fit on your vehicles.
and you on yours, but please stop giving advice.....
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:06 PM   #128
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:09 PM   #129
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Hey, don't you have a baby to get ready for or something? Shouldn't you be throwing some armor and upgraded suspension on a stroller?
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:17 PM   #130
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Im not looking to make enemies on any forum (with the exception of some in their politics section ) but sometimes I fail to see the logic and reasoning behind most advice. Most (after about a page of a discussion) forget the OP and just start babbling advice. My first post in this thread was not to lift it. The 2 door already has a slightly twitchy ride, so lifting it when NOT necessary seems like a pointless exercise to me (granted, capper mentioned this earlier). Discussing things like articulation etc in a thread where the OP stated (twice) that he is doing this for looks and doesn't care about offroad performance is also a pointless exercise. My advice for the OP was pretty simple, and I don't know why Capper decided to get personal, taking my comments out of context (except one, where I admittedly misspoke)....since he is only interested in looks, and doesn't care about offroad abilities, then he should get whatever tires he wants (so that he only has to address the suspension once) and make sure he has clearance for them, so that eventhough he doesn't take the rig offroad, it is still CAPABLE offroad, that's all.

My general statement about articulation vs height was also pretty simple...anytime you can gain articulation without gaining height its a good thing. Gaining articulation without height isn't cheap on a JK unfortunately, but nevertheless, the two are actually separate entities (although one is a byproduct of another.)

I don't see what the OP would gain with a lift, other than smaller looking wheels and a slightly twitchier highway ride (for his purposes.)
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:27 PM   #131
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Dude, I didn't take your comments out of context...I quoted you directly.....and you just kept going and going and going. It was more than one comment, and its frustrating......theres seven pages covering the issue.....several posts by me and others explaining things to the OP, then you pop in with one post that was just full of crazy.
On a couple of occasions I suggested just letting it go, but then you'd say something else and it just got under my skin. I try to be the voice of reason around here...I've been doing this quite awhile and know what I'm talking about. I don't at all like calling people out....but bad advice and factually wrong information here can be a big problem. We try to give people options, and good ideas from personal experience... and when someone comes along and posts something like you did, it hurts us as a community because it is our credibility....its very frustrating. I did not mean to hurt your feelings, thats not cool....but I gave you a few chances for an out and you just kept putting your foot back in your mouth after I winched it out.
I'm done with the back and forth with you, if you want you can message me....but at this point its just getting silly and taking away from the goal of helping people.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:28 PM   #132
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Capper, just to show you that we are probably on the same page, would you not agree...say you have a suspension system and you need 1" of clearance for full articulation of the given suspension...in your opinion, what is the smarter move, to get flat fenders to get that 1" of travel, or to lift the vehicle by 1" to gain that 1" of travel?
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #133
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Capper, just to show you that we are probably on the same page, would you not agree...say you have a suspension system and you need 1" of clearance for full articulation of the given suspension...in your opinion, what is the smarter move, to get flat fenders to get that 1" of travel, or to lift the vehicle by 1" to gain that 1" of travel?
1" of clearance? I'd probably tell the person to check their stock springs....most likely they can get that 1" by simply getting some stiffer takeoffs from a JKU Rubicon, or craigslist, or the dealer. Next up would be some 1" coils spacers. both solutions are less than $200, can be installed by a novice in an hour or two, and both would keep the factory ride..
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1" of clearance? I'd probably tell the person to check their stock springs....most likely they can get that 1" by simply getting some stiffer takeoffs from a JKU Rubicon, or craigslist, or the dealer. Next up would be some 1" coils spacers. both solutions are less than $200, can be installed by a novice in an hour or two, and both would keep the factory ride..
I meant from a functionality point of view (disregard price) and those are your two options... Wouldn't you agree that if you can accomplish something (in this case, gain that 1" of clearance) without lifting the vehicle and raising its center of gravity then that's the way to go? Obviously this is an extreme example and not going to happen in the real world for 1" (because like you said, other options are far less expensive and easier)...this is purely a functionality example.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 06:40 PM   #135
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Dude.....did....you....read....this.....whole....t hread?! STEP AWAY FROM THE ABSOLUT!!!!!!
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