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post #16 of 23 Old 06-12-2013, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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1) Interior sparkles. All carpets out, removed (cut on those sections that were still joined by a 1/2"), and everything inside spit and polished. This is because to see where I was going, I had to open the door. Open doors, spinning tyres, mud makes for a *very dirty interior.

2) Power Steering: its broken.. Fluid flushed, and properly bled. As soon as the engine revs over 1500rpms, the pump dies.

3) Aircon/Climate control: perfect (all mud removed, all connectors dielectric greased)

4) Horn: perfect too

5) Engine oil: changed properly/ new filter (heck, I allowed it to drain overnight, despite the oil being hot from a good drive prior to drain)

6) Transmission: flushed and refilled properly ( quite a few small pieces of metal shavings present, which I expect from a brand new vehicle that hasnt enjoyed a change to date)

7) Front and Rear diff - drained, cover removed, cleaned out with brake cleaner, gaskets removed and cleaned properly, and put back with hi temp Permatex. Front diff especially had milky white oil - glad I did the deed.

8) Rear bumper: fixed perfectly.

9) Fuel tank skid dropped, panelbeaten and recoated. Fuel tank mud removed (incredible amount sitting on top of the tank). Same with transmission skid.

10) Tires rotated.

11) Brake service done, and ABS connectors dielectric greased.

12) All electrical connectors dielectric greased (there are a ton!)

Things to do: extend diff/ tranmission breathers to better protected areas so that I dont have to do that again in a hurry.

Resources: many different websites outside this one - all bookmarked for the future.

ps: cannot rev engine in neutral on the automatic 'box above 4050 rpm - its a protection mechanism.

Best ,and thanks for the input guys.

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post #17 of 23 Old 06-13-2013, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lito View Post

ps: cannot rev engine in neutral on the automatic 'box above 4050 rpm - its a protection mechanism.

Best ,and thanks for the input guys.
Yeah they are doing that quite a bit now. It's not good to rev and engine without a load on it. Glad you're getting it all worked out.

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post #18 of 23 Old 06-13-2013, 09:47 AM
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Any chance there's a filter/screen in the power steering pump that clogs with some remaining sediment at 1500+ rpm and starves the pump? I'm not sure, just a guess as I don't understand what else would cause this based on engine speed.

I had a bad whine near/in the alternator after my first deep water...it went away after a while and a couple of engine compartment cleanings.

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post #19 of 23 Old 06-13-2013, 02:52 PM
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Where are the pictures of this mess? It sounds epic!

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post #20 of 23 Old 06-13-2013, 04:58 PM
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Where are the pictures of this mess? It sounds epic!
right, no pics mehhh it did not happen.

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post #21 of 23 Old 06-14-2013, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Mello3 - glad to have her running sweetly again

Gills - good question. I did, however, completely flush the PS pump (with engine running as well, until no more ATF+4 came out). Then a good cleaning of the reservoir (there were metal bits in there - quite a few) and then a full bleeding of the system. That last step took a long time.

Having said that, the whine remains but the PS works more and more. After giving it to a pro to look at, it turns out that the PS is indeed the noise maker. Well, that and idler pulleys....
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post #22 of 23 Old 06-14-2013, 04:59 PM
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The idler pulleys dry out in a hurry. The missus loves the mud and water. They last about 3 months, then they dry out and start whining. I buy 4 to 6 at a time. Power steering pump shaft may be shorn. Remove the belt and see if the pulley pulls out of the pump.

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post #23 of 23 Old 06-16-2013, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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Ha - Victim of Pain and 222 Doc - the crap part of being lead in a situation like this is that the other drive holds onto his steering wheel while I go first watching for my lines. No pics from his side for me. I have a few of him, but then I do like to record situations like this for later reminiscing.

Bob K - thats helpful information thanks man. Do you have a good resource on the web that I can learn from in order to replace my idler pulleys? (ps: PS pump has already been replaced)
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