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Unread 07-30-2012, 10:43 AM   #16
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Is the tow rating for the JK and the JKU the same?
No.
2dr = 1000 lbs and 2000 lbs, depending on how it's set up.
4dr = 1000 lbs and 3500 lbs, depending on how it's set up.

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Unread 07-30-2012, 10:45 AM   #17
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No.
2dr = 1000 lbs and 2000 lbs, depending on how it's set up.
4dr = 1000 lbs and 3500 lbs, depending on how it's set up.
Ahhh ok, I had guessed that the JKU might be underrated for towing if the rating was the same for both... But never mind that thought then
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Unread 05-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #18
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I heard the tow rating is based upon how much the frame of the vehicle is capable of pulling, not the engine or torque. Is this true? I tow my 2,500 lbs boat with my XJ. However, even with my XJ and a towing capacity of 5,000 lbs, I do get some tow sway here and there because of the short frame and wheel base.
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Unread 05-25-2013, 02:07 PM   #19
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I'm not convinced that's the limiting factor.
The boxed cross member is welded to the frame rails, so the load ends up at the same place as a hitch that's bolted to the rails. The tow rating isn't based on the class of hitch installed.
The limiting factor is the ability of the vehicle to keep control and stop safely. I you are in an accident that was caused by u not being able to stop, and its because you were overloaded, it's all on you.

Any of these jeeps can pull 5,000lbs, it's stopping in time that becomes an issue.

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Unread 05-25-2013, 08:36 PM   #20
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I heard the tow rating is based upon how much the frame of the vehicle is capable of pulling, not the engine or torque. Is this true? I tow my 2,500 lbs boat with my XJ. However, even with my XJ and a towing capacity of 5,000 lbs, I do get some tow sway here and there because of the short frame and wheel base.
I doubt it's based upon frame specs. the XJ is a unitized body as is my WJ which is also rated at 5000 lbs.
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Unread 05-25-2013, 10:28 PM   #21
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It's not about what you can pull and get moving, it's about what you can control once you get it moving.

As someone said, be involved in an accident and even though someone else was the initial cause of the accident, a lot of responsibility could be transferred to the vehicle that was towing outside it's approved weight class. Of course all depends upon the circumstances, but everyone is usually looking to blame someone else or at lease spread the blame.

For example in NJ, a DUI involved in an accident that results in a death requires a mandatory jail sentence. True story, a guy who is under the influence, but driving ok, stops at the red traffic light. Someone apparently completely sober but distracted crashes into the rear of the first vehicle stopped at the red light. Second driver is killed in the accident. During the investigation it's determined the first driver, who so far had done nothing wrong to contribute to the accident, is under the influence. He is charged, first offense doing anything wrong in his life, and winds up in jail because the second driver died.

I'm not saying I never did anything illegal, just saying be careful out there because it's so easy for something that should not be a problem to become a big problem. No one ever gets up and says today is the day I'm going to do something to screw up the rest of my life, stuff just happens and we wish we had not done it that way today.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 08:51 AM   #22
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I wonder how impressed you'd be when you get in an accident? A lawyer would eat you for breakfast. Towing beyond the factory limits is a STUPID thing to do. Need to tow heavy loads? Buy something that is designed to do so.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 10:41 AM   #23
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Call the forum Police! Someone broke the towing law again.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 12:37 PM   #24
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Call the forum Police! Someone broke the towing law again.
You get in front of him in a panic stop. See if you think it's funny then
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Unread 05-26-2013, 02:39 PM   #25
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Everything will be ok until it isn't. Ya can tow heavy 1,000 times and nothing goes wrong, that's great, but the one time something happens you will wish you were 100% legal. Not saying I never did/do anything that's not 100% legal, but I never advise someone else to do it. I make a value/risk assessment and then do what works for me. Bottom line, that's what you need to do for yourself. You have heard the pros and cons and some opinions, you just have to do what you are comfortable doing.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 02:47 PM   #26
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Apparently you can drive across a bridge in the USA and it will collapse under you. What's the chances.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 06:03 PM   #27
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Apparently you can drive across a bridge in the USA and it will collapse under you. What's the chances.
To make the bridge collapse underneath you, ya have to hit a few of the tops cross members with your oversize load and take a few of them out along the way in order to get the bridge to collapse.

On the bright side we at least have bridges unlike like the pontoon boat that's used as a ferry, crossing the river at Dawson Creek.

Dawson Creek is a great place to visit, even if the roads are dirt, the air conditioning and internet access is rationed so everyone in town gets a chance to use it. Saw my first burlesque show there at Diamond Tooth Gurtie's Saloon.

Great place to visit but I am USA all the way ! God Bless the USA !
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Unread 05-26-2013, 07:06 PM   #28
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I like it in places down there to, some of you are to worried about litigation. Every time someone pulls over the low legal limit of the Unlimited the tow police are out. There's probably over a dozen threads like this out there. Not all towing 4000lbs but same idea. I guess it's been awhile since you've been through, there's been a bridge at Clayhurst for around 30 years. I regret having never crossed on that old ferry but the Rolla Pub is still open on the way there.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 08:25 PM   #29
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Ok my apologies, I was thinking about Dawson City, in the Yukon Territory. I was up there a few years ago and had to take a ferry across the river into Dawson City, the streets are dirt, they ration internet access 1/2 hour per person so everyone gets a chance to use it. I was in Dawson Creek also, that's the base of the Al-Can highway.

No harm meant, all in good fun ! I had my 4wd dodge truck when i was up there, would have really liked to have had the Jeep, what an experience and created a lifetime of memories.
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Unread 05-26-2013, 09:33 PM   #30
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To make the bridge collapse underneath you, ya have to hit a few of the tops cross members with your oversize load and take a few of them out along the way in order to get the bridge to collapse.
- Full DOT permits
- Escorts present
- Didn't hit "a few" and none were "taken out", single glancing impact that resulted in a minor dent on the load
- Bridge listed as "functionally obsolete"

You didn't miss much in your post.
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