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post #1 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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Upgrading to huge JK

Well I currently have a 98 TJ im considering selling soon. Im looking into getting a 09 or 10 4dr JK. While I do live in the burbs ive always loved how beefy the huge lifts look. What im trying to figure out is say i put a 6" long arm kit on, what else would I need not included in the kit? and if anyone has done this what it ended up running you that you may not have expected.
I know there are 1001 different threads on lifts but few seemed to adress a 6" lift.

(p.s. i know the 6" is ridic for the little amount of offroading i do but I just want this thing to be massive. unless the price difference is $2,000 betweent the 6" and the 4", im doing the 6)

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post #2 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 03:38 PM
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What size of tires do you want to end up with?

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post #3 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 03:42 PM
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IMO, a six inch lift is ridiculous, esp on a JK, which already sits higher than your TJ. At six inches you will need an entirely new suspension, incl springs, shocks, brake lines, control arms, drive shafts, track bar and connections, bump stops, etc...and will require careful alignment to obtain a suitable geometry so as to not drive like a monster truck...in addition, if you plan on larger wheels and tires, count on a re-gear too....just MNSHO ohhhh, and for the little lady, a step ladder.

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IMO, a six inch lift is ridiculous, esp on a JK, which already sits higher than your TJ. At six inches you will need an entirely new suspension, incl springs, shocks, brake lines, control arms, drive shafts, track bar and connections, bump stops, etc...and will require careful alignment to obtain a suitable geometry so as to not drive like a monster truck...in addition, if you plan on larger wheels and tires, count on a re-gear too....just MNSHO ohhhh, and for the little lady, a step ladder.
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I like the step ladder part. I was typing up a response very similar to yours but had grab handles in the need parts list.

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post #6 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 03:58 PM
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With a 6 inch lift, you are going to have to run 37 inch tires or its going to look ridiculous. Six inches of lift on a JK is analogous to ten inches of lift on a TJ.

You're going to spend a lot of money on either a four inch or six inch lift, more on the six. That much lift will require new driveshaft, correction of pinion angles, caster correction, as well as a lot of beefing up. Then there's the gear change to run tires that size, gusseting and reinforcing the axles to take the strain, etc.

You aren't gonna get it done anywhere near 2k. Somewhere between 5-8k would be my guess.
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post #7 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 04:02 PM
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Also, prepare to be made fun of by pretty much any other jeeper.

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post #8 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 04:43 PM
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Kit cost difference isn't the problem, it's everything else you have to buy with it. Mainly large tires ($$$), driveshafts ($$) and regear ($$). Remember JK lift usually follows the rules: 3"=35"s, 4"=37"s, 6"=38"s minimum, probably 40"s. Not to discourage you, but you're in for a treat when you see the full price of a complete 6" lift.

Also, long arms not required either, though I hate to open that can of worms debate...
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post #9 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 05:17 PM
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Also.....if you have a stock JK, then you will have a D30 front axle, and to handle 37 or 40 inch tires with any degree of long term reliability, you will be looking at sleeve and gusset the front axle shaft and add chrome moly axles, like RCVs and if you rock and roll at all, you might want pneumatic steering or assist cylinder esp at 40 inches. IMO stock steering will not handle 40s on the rocks.

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post #10 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 05:20 PM
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^^^ Also good points, definitely assisted steering and beefed up axle assemblies ($$$). Even the JK D44 has the same axle tubes and inner "C"s as the D30, so either would also have to be sleeved and gussetted ($$).
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post #11 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 05:57 PM
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Lot's of good info; but, it appears the OP is MIA. I don't know if the OP is trolling or not, just kinda looks that way.

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Could be, after all OP has a whopping total of 1 post. lol
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post #13 of 35 Old 10-15-2012, 07:58 PM
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Well, lets try and give the guy more than four hours to reply before calling him "MIA."

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post #14 of 35 Old 10-16-2012, 06:48 AM Thread Starter
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Im here! Thanks for all the advice. I was planning on getting 37" tires to fill out the lift but it seems that they will fill out a 4" lift much better? I was looking at the teraflex 6" or 4" kit. That looks like it will include most parts but i will still need to buy
- Longer driveshaft (front and rear?)
- New gearing (is this neccessary? if i stick with 37" but go to a 4" kit? or say i go down to 35")
- extended break lines

This is what i noticed was not included in the kit so please list more if im missing it, but im looking for what is absolutly neccessary not a convinence. (i.e steering assist seems like it would help but again not neccessary)
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post #15 of 35 Old 10-16-2012, 07:07 AM Thread Starter
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Better yet can anyone post some good comparision pictures of a stock jk to a 4" lifted jk on 35"s or 37"s? The concenses seems that there is a lot more work to do for the 6" lift compared to the 4" and that it is a lot more money just for two inches.
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