[athos76]

Well, I call either C-rod failure or Piston failure.... the reason being...

This happened in flight on one of my old aircraft... Piston fractured, sending the c-rod through the bottom of the engine. I stood there and watched the pilot dead stick it in and make a perfect landing...while the front of the aircraft was on fire...

We tore the engine down and found a crack through the piston. There was so much damage inside the block. The Cam was twisted from the impact and the crank was toast... Similar damage...and this engine is air-cooled...

[Crimbshaw188]

^^^ I have been a mechanic for 6 months and in my expert opinion you hydrolocked your airplane, you know what you did. You submerged your airplane and expect us to warranty it.

[XtrailratedJ]

Originally Posted by Crimbshaw188

^^^ I have been a mechanic for 6 months and in my expert opinion you hydrolocked your airplane, you know what you did. You submerged your airplane and expect us to warranty it.

I've read this entire thread and have been watching the updates, but I had to post when I saw this post. Great laugh to start my day off.....

To the OP, I am sorry you have to go through all this. I am sure it will all pan out, it just sucks you have to wait and you may not be here to deal with it.

Good luck, and I will be watching and am willing to help once it is decided how we can...

[goose87]

Originally Posted by XtrailratedJ

I've read this entire thread and have been watching the updates, but I had to post when I saw this post. Great laugh to start my day off.....

To the OP, I am sorry you have to go through all this. I am sure it will all pan out, it just sucks you have to wait and you may not be here to deal with it.

Good luck, and I will be watching and am willing to help once it is decided how we can...

i agree with what XtrailratedJ said, it was a great laugh to start the day.

i have been following this thread since the beginning and i am very curious how this is going to turn out. this is what keeps me occupied while i am at work

best of luck to the OP. i hope he gets all this straightened out and with the ending he wants. i will be following this till the end to see how Chrysler handles this mess. like everyone else has been saying, they at least owe it to you to send a mechanic from Chrysler out to take apart the engine and prove that it was hydro locked. i mean come on, im sure they can spare one person to do this.

ill be keeping an eye out for that twitter message too. i will definitely re-post that

[snakedriver]

Have you had the engine disassembled??
There is a lot of speculation about what caused this..
I recently lost a cylinder head (heat warped) because the radiator cap was left loose when the engine was serviced. Of course it overheated ... but was promptly cooled down and refilled. Everything was fine for several months then suddenly ... water in two cylinders. new heads $2500. Do you think Pep Boys would face the music?? What is strange about this? When I had the my dodge pickup towed back to the service point. Pep Boys paid my vehicle rental, refunded the service they provided for the truck which was a full service and a full brake job with new disks.. Several hundred dollars.. BUT they would never confess to the head damage as anything that they would be responsible for. The head service was done by my local Dodge - Jeep dealer and the even stated the head damage was from overheating.. I will only defend the dealer here on my repairs and they were good. The point of all this.. Until you actually get in the engine you may find a gasket, cracked head or cylinder that caused the damage.

[KillaBeave]

Posting to sub and state that I am among those delaying a new JKU purchase until I see how this is resolved ...

[1222]

^^^ Why in the bleep would you do a thing like that?

[Millermagic]

I'm in for helping with a billboard too!

We have been fighting a ton of problems with our Chrysler Jeep product. As far as I'm concerned, Chrysler makes completely garbage products and so does "Jeep". As I stated in an earlier post, "Jeep" is just Chrysler garbage slapped together with a name on it. Until they work on their quality problems, I am doing my best to sway people against buying new "jeep" products.

A lot of these engines were put together wrong.

[ninjakid]

Originally Posted by athos76

Well, I call either C-rod failure or Piston failure.... the reason being...

This happened in flight on one of my old aircraft... Piston fractured, sending the c-rod through the bottom of the engine. I stood there and watched the pilot dead stick it in and make a perfect landing...while the front of the aircraft was on fire...

We tore the engine down and found a crack through the piston. There was so much damage inside the block. The Cam was twisted from the impact and the crank was toast... Similar damage...and this engine is air-cooled...

Subbed to see what happens.
Good luck OP, I hope everything gets made right.

I'm gonna assume that was a aluminum block and the connecting rod was forged steel?
When the piston discovers its afraid of the dark and decides to go to a brighter place the connecting rod will turn into a knife especially when the rod itself breaks at the end.
My dad has experienced more than his share of engines that were literally cut in half by a runaway connecting rod during his old job.
That was the Reno air races though with V-12's running over 100 inches of manifold pressure and pumping out over 4000 horses...

[Millermagic]

Originally Posted by ninjakid

Subbed to see what happens.
Good luck OP, I hope everything gets made right.

I'm gonna assume that was a aluminum block and the connecting rod was forged steel?
When the piston discovers its afraid of the dark and decides to go to a brighter place the connecting rod will turn into a knife especially when the rod itself breaks at the end.
My dad has experienced more than his share of engines that were literally cut in half by a runaway connecting rod during his old job.
That was the Reno air races though with V-12's running over 100 inches of manifold pressure and pumping out over 4000 horses...

I can't say I'd be too happy if my street car engine throws a rod and it goes through the block.

I'm scared that it happens on planes ... I don't want my airplane engine throwing a rod through the block!

[EAD Offroad]

Originally Posted by Crimbshaw188

^^^ I have been a mechanic for 6 months and in my expert opinion you hydrolocked your airplane, you know what you did. You submerged your airplane and expect us to warranty it.

If the airplane was on a conveyor belt it would not have taken off and could very well have became submerged and hydrolocked

[pentastarguy]

subscribe to find out the cause of this.

[SpaceGost]

Good luck! ....and my Focus definately had a dirtier engine bay!

[sgt jeep]

So Friday, 11MAY, I call the 800 Chrysler Customer Assistance Center # and have the guy re-write the synopsis to reflect the actual events surrounding the engine failure. He reassigns it to the Special Investigation Team and tells me to give them a few days to work it. I call today to get an update and find out that Monday, 14MAY, the Investigation Team reassigned it back to the original and denied any warranty work. No investigation done, just a review of the original notes and deny it again.

The gal I spoke to read me part of the synopsis and said the Area Manager denied it due to me submerging my vehicle causing the engine to hydro-lock, which was the original write-up. She said the case is closed and there is nothing she can do. She said there is a lot of detail in the file the area manager added but would not read it to me. So there is something added that is not up to par. She also refused to send me a copy of my case, citing proprietary property. I asked what my recourse was at this point and she said the area manager said I would have to pay for the repairs myself. She said there was no supervisor to speak with and nothing I could do. I told her I had no other option but to seek civil action and contact an attorney.

I don’t understand what the Special Investigation Team investigates because it was not my jeep! I also asked her why no one called me to tell me any of this and she said the first person I spoke to should have called me. So no one wants to talk to me or have anything to do with my jeep.

I'm pretty calmed down now as this was earlier today but I couldn’t believe it. I am so over Chrysler at this point. I really thought they would investigate but to do nothing is the worst thing they could have done. Not even calling me and telling me.

I have opened a case with the Nashville Better Business Bureau and going from there. Gary Mathews is member of the BBB if that matters any. As it is, I will most likely get it fixed on my own and fight with Chrysler over paying me for it. (Thanks to all who offered to donate money for me. I don’t know what to say to that, but thanks!)

I want to say thanks for all the support, advice, motivation and words of wisdom from everyone. The Jeep community is unique among all other vehicle owners (well, maybe the ‘vette guys’ camaraderie is almost as strong as ours) To get online and read all these posts everyday is now becoming a highlight of my day. I have not responded to everyone’s post, but I read them all.

Depending on what the BBB says, or advises, I will have the engine torn apart and an impartial shop examine it and write up the cause(s). Someone advised having the oil filter checked as well and I will have that done too. I have a neighbor who is an engineer for the local Nissan plant and will seek his advice out too.

Standby for further!

[sgt jeep]

Originally Posted by goose87

best of luck to the OP. i hope he gets all this straightened out and with the ending he wants. i will be following this till the end to see how Chrysler handles this mess. like everyone else has been saying, they at least owe it to you to send a mechanic from Chrysler out to take apart the engine and prove that it was hydro locked. i mean come on, im sure they can spare one person to do this.

Ummm, yea, I don't think so!