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post #1 of 10 Old 12-04-2013, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
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Trade 2011 Rubi for 2012 Rubi Unlimited?

I have a two door 2011 Black Ops Edition, I'm considering trading it for a 2012 Rubicon Unlimited. Miles on the two Jeeps are close, mine 16K the 2012 21K. I considered an Unlimited when I bought mine, but the 2011s were way underpowered. That is not a problem at all with the 2012. The 2012 was sold new in July 2012. No recalls on it at all. Were most of the Pentastar head problems on early models? At the end of negotiations this afternoon, we were at $9800 difference plus tires at dealer cost. Have I lost my mind? I really would like to have the extra room, but really can't go 42K for a new Rubicon.

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post #2 of 10 Old 12-04-2013, 10:01 PM
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Wait they want your black ops and almost $10k? That seems like a bad deal for you all the way. I have a hard time believing your upside down on your Jeep or are you?
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post #3 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 12:49 AM
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No matter how you slice it, unless the your father in law owns the dealership, you will pay a premium for the convenience of just trading in your 2 door. If you want the best deal possible, then sell your 2 door on your own and negotiate the best price you can for the JKU in question or another on the market.

If you are not interested in selling your 2 door on your own, then determine how much you are willing to pay for the convenience of a trade then add that amount to the difference in price based on the KBB or local listings and that will tell you if it is a good deal for you or not.
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post #4 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 05:00 AM Thread Starter
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A good point, further complicated by state law. If I trade, I save $1200 in state sales tax vs. paying cash.
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post #5 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 09:26 AM
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If it's a 13-14 I'd consider it, but your buying another used one, right? They are asking to much. As said, sell yours, then buy a 4dr from a private seller. Of, as the reality sets in, drive your for another 3-5 years to burn off the depreciation.
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post #6 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeepin' Joe View Post
A good point, further complicated by state law. If I trade, I save $1200 in state sales tax vs. paying cash.
Check a dealer or two - here in Texas a dealer can do a title exchange for two parties - then the tax is the same as if the dealer did the actual sale (car price minus trade value). I paid a service charge of ~30.00 bucks and all the title work and everything was done for me, and tax was only collected on the difference in value (basically the cash I paid and the note absorbed by the buyer over the value of
the car I traded).

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Also, when you sell a car you can make up your own bill of sale, you can literally type up whatever you want and say you traded it against a new purchase and you pay no sales tax at all.

Keep in my the '11 is a lot less desirable than '12+ model years because of engine
I don't understand what you are saying? You don't pay tax when you sell a car...the buyer does.

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post #8 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 04:40 PM
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bad deal, i picked up my 12 rubi for 28.5k with 40 something miles on it

also wait for the new diesel they'll eventually have to put in to meet fuel mpg needs. hopefully anyways

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post #9 of 10 Old 12-05-2013, 04:42 PM
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Just to give you an idea, a Rubi with auto and hardtop only is $5500 more the a JKUS with power, auto, hardtop.

The base price difference on a 2D to JKU is $4k. So depending on how built the rubi is, $9800 difference may be fair.

In my area, 2012 Rubi JKU's are around 18-25k mileage are $29-32k.


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post #10 of 10 Old 12-07-2013, 07:53 PM
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I say go for it if you want the 3.6 engine and 4 doors. I'm not realling going to analyze the prices though. Just saying do it if that's what you want.
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