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post #1 of 15 Old 06-23-2006, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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Towing capacity?

With the larger motor and 4 wheel disc brakes, has the towing capacity been increased in the new wrangler? Couldn't find it on Jeep's page.


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post #2 of 15 Old 06-23-2006, 10:48 AM
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I doubt it would increase. Its still a very short wheel base vehicle, even the 4 door, for towing anything.

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I think I read 3500 somewhere...?
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Yes, it is 3500. I am still at a loss for how it can have a longer wheelbase than a LIberty, a 3.8 versus a 3.7....and still have 1500 less towing capacity.
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What wieghs more, a wrangler or a liberty?

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That's awesome. Thanks for the info, guess I'll wait for the 07...


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Just found this:

http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...2006/specs.asp

Looks like 3.21 ratio axles will tow 1000 lbs and 4.10 ratio axles will tow 2000 lbs, if I'm reading the chart correctly.

Bummer....I guess it's better than the existing 1500 lbs limit.
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why is it I see Jeeps pulling people out of the mud all the time with such a sh!tty tow limit? How do they not break stuff?
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post #9 of 15 Old 06-23-2006, 06:56 PM
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Guys, its about safety when towing. Short wheel bases are not safe to tow with. Longer trailers will push these vehicles all over the road, and jeeps do not weigh enough to stop heavy loads. Even if the tailer has brakes, it would be dangerous to pull anything at high speeds with such a light and small vehicle.

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With the larger motor and 4 wheel disc brakes, has the towing capacity been increased in the new wrangler? Couldn't find it on Jeep's page.


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Since when is a 3.8 liter bigger than a 4.0 liter?

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Speaking of towing capacity. If the Gladiator(assuming its a JK platform) does eventually come with the diesel, will it have a towing capacity that will allow it to be a tow rig for a trail only Jeep? It is longer, and will be a bit heaviier I supposed but not much. I would really love to haul my trail only YJ with a Jeep Gladiator.
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Releases say that the Unlimited will be capable of towing 3500 lbs, and the two package will include a Dana 44 rear.

My girlfriend might not splurge for the Rubi with the 44, but the tow package is a given!
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Since when is a 3.8 liter bigger than a 4.0 liter?
Whoops! My bad. Good catch. Just assumed it was bigger since the V6 lists 205 hp versus the I6 at 190 hp. I guess the correct wording should have been "more power" versus "larger motor".

I stand corrected.

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Why is the towing capacity only 3500 still when the wheelbase is longer than the current LJ. The liberty and the Cherokee are both rated to tow 5000 lbs. Do you think that it is rated this low due to the current engine and transmission and when they offer different engine options the tow rating will be larger then? I am really concerned with this because the boat I am purchasing will weigh around 4000 lbs with trailer and I would like to get a jk to tow it when my current xj needs to be upgraded. Do you think it will be a bad idea to tow 4000 lbs with the new jk unlimited, as long as I have trailer brakes?
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When they rate a vehicle's towing capacity they take into account:

* wheelbase
* weight
* transmission (ie auto vs stick)
* transmission cooling
* brakes (there are reasons why 3/4 or 1-ton trucks are rated for more than an otherwise-identical 1/2 ton truck)
* suspension (yet another reason for the above)
* chassis (why a 3.8L V6 in a minivan is rated to tow less, but makes more power than, the 3.7L in a KJ)

The towing capacity is a recommended maximum: a CRD Liberty is rated for 5000 lb, but can quite easily tow 6500 lb. Ultimately it's a safety issue - stopping and maintaining vehicle control.

A JK Unlimited will weigh more than a TJ (short or long wheelbase). Heck, they're probably applying the same max recommended towing weight to all JKs, regardless of wheelbase If it has the towing package (for the transmission cooler and what not) I think it'll safely tow more than the recommended, and I don't think a 4000 lb load will pose a problem.

Just don't tell the dealer, and make sure you have trailer brakes - for an extra margin of safety

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