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Unread 01-10-2007, 07:42 PM   #1
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Thinking of getting a JK unlimited. A few ??

Hi all, The wife and I are thinking of getting a JK unlimited Rubicon. I tried the search but all I found were threads from people that don't or "I used to have" a Jeep. Currently the wife drives an '01 Grand Cherokee and I have my "new" '89 YJ. We're looking to replace the Grand. She drives it most of the time and we'll be making a trip to Fla this spring. Is a JK gonna be a good replacement for a GC? We need the room for 2 teens and 2 dogs. The GC is currently big enough but is 6 yrs old now. I haven't even stopped @ a dealer yet. I guess I'm just looking for some honest opinions about it. I wanna get the Rubicon pkg so we can haul everyone out to Paragon and have some family fun without worring about getting stuck or breaking. Will I survive a drive to Fla with the wife and 2 teens in a JK or am I dillusional
Should I just get a new GC or Commander $$$? I've read the reveiws of it and I can live with the power(?) of the engine and the ride. What else is uncomfortable or annoying with these? Thanks!

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Unread 01-10-2007, 07:47 PM   #2
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I have a JK Unlimited. I would never go on a long trip in it with my two kids (6 and 8) much less two teenagers. I have an expedition for that. YMMV.
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Unread 01-10-2007, 07:53 PM   #3
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There is nothing uncomfortable about the new JK's. Honestly. The two things you will notice compared to the GC or Commander are more bounce and road feel, and a less powerful engine.

You lose some of the interior amnemities you get with the others (leather, heated seats, more toys).

The Commanders and GCs are cool vehicles...and the hemi....wow, very nice. I never even considered them, however, as I wanted the top to come off, the doors to come off, and I wanted to feel like I was driving a jeep not a luxury SUV. I honestly dont think you are giving up a whole lot of interior room compared to those, but you are losing the easy roof storage those provide with the built in racks.

You really need to test drive one. I find them as comfortable as I would ever need, almost too comfortable....and everything else that makes them a Wrangler is simply priceless.
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Unread 01-10-2007, 08:06 PM   #4
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I haven't compared the interior specs however I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited and a JK (Sahara) and I believe there is just as much if not more room in the JK. The JK rides and handles better than the GCL as well as my wife's Land Rover Discovery. If the kid's and dogs will fit in your Grand Cherokee then they will fit in the JK.

What about luggage? I would imagine the teens are in the back seats and the dogs are in the cargo space.......do you use a roof top carrier on the GC? The only issue with the JK is not having the ability to use a roof top carrier.

I wouldn't hesitate taking the JK on another long trip.....I've done it twice already. Drove from NY to GA (13 hours) and GA to the beach (11 hours round trip) and found that the JK rides better at 75 on the Interstate than on city streets. As well, the JK is going to get better mileage than the GC.

Go test drive a JK and you'll be sold. I use it for my daily driver and couldn't be happier.
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Unread 01-10-2007, 08:18 PM   #5
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xfactor must have posted as I was typing and as you can see we say about the same thing. If the GC works for the trips then the JK will too.

The coolest thing at the beach last week was I was able to take the tops off and drive around.........
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Unread 01-10-2007, 08:27 PM   #6
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Cool.. The dogs won't be going to Fla. Luggage goes in the back. I watched Family Vacation and see what can happen with stuff on the roof! I've never used the roof rack on the GC. I've got a hardtop and soft for the YJ and it's great for the woods and short trips around town but no room. I think we're going Fri to take 1 for a drive and see what we can ge tfor the GC. Hopefully they'll have a few on the lot. Thanks
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Unread 01-10-2007, 09:02 PM   #7
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One thing I should have added is that I have not ridden in the backseat. My kids are both under 10 so they have no problems but I have seen a few reviews that complained about the backseat comfort. I dont think it was from a lack of room but rather the seats or seating position. It might be worth taking your family with you for a drive.
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Unread 01-10-2007, 09:17 PM   #8
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I have both a 2005 GC Limited 4x4 and a 2007 Unlimited Rubicon auto.
My stats: 6'3" @ 265lbs.

The GC is my wife's. She loves it. I have one newborn. With the car seat and all of the baby stuff, it has pleanty of room. When my wife was 7 mos pregnant, I took her and my in-laws to Orlando for a vacation (@ 1000 miles roundtrip). The ride was comfortable. The vacation wasn't (dealing with the in-laws and a pregnant wife). It's a very nice ride. I get to drive it once in a while. It does have a little different seating position than my JKU.

The JKU is comfortable on long road trips. I work out of town and travel quite a bit. I have @ 6200 miles on it with no problems. I have no problems with the "lack of power" some people complain about. I've had a 95 YJ, 99 TJ Sahara and a 03 Rubicon. Imo, there is not much of a power difference between the JKU and the other wranglers I've owned. The JKU hasn't seen any serious off roading as of yet, but I still can't see that power would be a problem.

I believe the rear seating area in the JKU has a little more room than the GC. Rear luggage space is about the same.

If I had to pick one it would be the JKU all the way. Ample space for family and cargo with a removable top and doors.
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Unread 01-11-2007, 06:15 AM   #9
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One thing I should have added is that I have not ridden in the backseat. My kids are both under 10 so they have no problems but I have seen a few reviews that complained about the backseat comfort. I dont think it was from a lack of room but rather the seats or seating position. It might be worth taking your family with you for a drive.
I somewhat agree with xfactor on the back seat, all three of my kids (11, 8 and 3) don't mind however I've been back there and they tend to sit upright more than my GCL. I wouldn't call it "uncomfortable" however it's different.
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Unread 01-11-2007, 07:48 AM   #10
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I have never had any children in the backseat, but have had several adults sit comfortably while on short excursions... I have never been in the backseat while riding down the road, so I am constantly asking new backseat riders about the comfort. Not a complaint from any except: Adults do need to watch their forehead while in the back, the speakers mounted directly in front and above do protrude into your headroom space somewhat. On quick stops, readjusting yourself and leaning forward, even getting into the back seat -- quys have smacked themselves pretty good on the speaker housing. (I kindly ask them to take it easy on the equipment !!!) With children, I don't see this as a problem...
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Unread 01-11-2007, 08:02 AM   #11
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We (me, wife, and 3 yr old) just took a 1,800 mile trip in our brand new unlimited. No real complaints. Plenty of room (even with the soft top still in the back). Ride is a bit more firm than most "on-road" suvs, but it is so solid feeling, I almost enjoy the bumps! The best though, taking the Freedom panels or soft top off when you get to where you are going.... Priceless!
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Unread 01-12-2007, 06:03 PM   #12
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Well..I stopped @ the dealer today to take a close look at the JK's.. I wasn't impressed at all. They had 5 Xmodels and 2 Sahara's on the lot. The X's looked ridiculous! It looked like it had 4 temp spares under those big fenders. The Saharas looked better with real ful size tires but they were all softtops. The softtop looks easy to remove but I'll lose the big easy rear access my GC has. The carpet looks thrown in. The fit is poor and if it had hemmed edges it would've been OK but no. My 89 has better fitting carpet. The Commander looks cheesey also. Looks like DC thinks allen head screws are in I guess. They're everywhere and all plastic molded. ?? I see the headroom problem with backseat passengers on the Wrangler also. My current "stable" has what we're looking for and maybe if they refine the 4dr Wrangler I'll buy one next year. The single thing that made me turn away BTW is the hood bumpers and footman loop on the JK that does NOTHING! WTF! I don't buy things for looks I buy things that function. Anyway thanks for everyones input. The JK just won't work in my case but hey to each his/ her own. Also the best looking Jeep on the lot was the TJ Rubicon. $30000 though is alot to thrash on the trails. It is a nice looking rig!
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Unread 01-13-2007, 02:38 PM   #13
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I just looked at a JK Unlimited yesterday for the first time, and that's why I'm browsing over here in the JK forum today. I love my WK, but I'm always on the lookout for the next thing that I gotta have...being single and having a decent income does that to a guy...lol!

Anyways, I liked it. Front seat area was comfortable and seemed to be light years ahead of the older Wranglers in terms of materials, fit & finish, and amenities. In particular, the seats were much better than the older Wrangler...I always thought the older seats were way too soft. Looked like it had good cargo room too, although a folded soft top would diminish that a bit.

The one thing that I didn't like was the back seat. I sat in there and was surprised at how upright it was, to the point where I was searching around for something to recline them a bit. I prefer to sit upright...even on long plane rides I leave my seat fully upright, but the back seat of the JKU was a little too upright even for me. That wouldn't be a deal-killer for me since I'd probably fold the seats down most of the time for extra room for my dog, but I wouldn't want to put people back there for any length of time.

Honestly I feel similarly about the back seat of my WK, but for a different reason. The WK's back seat is ok except that the lower cushion is short and it's too low. It's ok for shorter trips with adults, but not longer ones. But hey...it folds down nicely for my dog, so no issue.
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