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post #1 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 10:03 AM Thread Starter
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Thinking of buying a 4 door. What to expect?

I've owned a yj for about 4 years now, and although I do love it, I am getting tired of fixing every little thing that breaks. Plus a little more power and luxury would be nice. About the I Lu thing I know is that I should get a 2012 or newer, as the engine has what 280 horsepower? Are there any things I should look out for on models? And also is a rubicon really worth the money? When cheaper better can be I stalled...

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post #2 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 11:42 AM
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I still have my Tj, I love that its a manual and its my travel all over and wheeling rig, The Jk is a 4 door, bought it last year. I have been driving that more and more lately. Off road too. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Now as far as rubicon or not, that's going to be a decision on what you will use it for. I got the sport, It was a lot cheaper and it goes off road quite well too. If your going to lift it, put aftermarket wheels and tires on, maybe getting a sport with the little dinky steel wheels will be worth it.
I sold the original wheels that came with mine, I wasn't going to, but they were just sitting around, and the extra money paid for more stuff.

The early 12 had a cylinder head issue, so make sure that was taken care of if looking at an early 12. But honestly, they hold there value really well, I would get a 13 or 14 if your looking that new.

Other than that, mine has been flawless. I have 24000 on it now, in just over a year. Do some reading, figure out what you want to do with it. and go from there. I think youll be happy.

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post #3 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 11:52 AM
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I love my JKU, its a 2012 with a 2.5 RK lift, Goodyear MTR's (35's), rear ARB locker and alot of other goodies.. I love how it runs both on and off road, and i do use it alot of road. 16,000 miles now and no issues, i agree with muddr1 as far as buying a Rubicon, it really depends what you are using it for. Like i said, i run mine on 8 rated trails all of the time and she keeps up.
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post #4 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys that helps. Yeah I did all my jeep work so defiantly will be lifting and putting other goodies. I will still keep the yj for my brother to use. How are the axles on these? Do you hear about guys doin axle swaps to like does 8.8? How much can I expect to pay for a used 12-13 with some miles?
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post #5 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 01:13 PM
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Thanks guys that helps. Yeah I did all my jeep work so defiantly will be lifting and putting other goodies. I will still keep the yj for my brother to use. How are the axles on these? Do you hear about guys doin axle swaps to like does 8.8? How much can I expect to pay for a used 12-13 with some miles?
The driveline is much beefier than the stock setup in the YJ. Depends on how hard you beat in them, but the D30/44 combo isn't terrible. Hell, Anything is better than that god awful c clipped d35 pos...ah memories.

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^^^^^^ Agreed with Dumpsterfish. I haven't had any issues with the 44-30 combo. I wouldn't worry too much unless you get to 35's and really intend to do some serious stuff.

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post #7 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah I would only run 33s, I just read about the dana 30/44 combo. Didn't know they did that. That was a pretty smart move. I supposed in would wheel it a lot especially with all the extra room to take friends. I live In Tucson and there are tons of trails on want to check out in southern Arizona. I mean he'll with what I do now with the dana 30/35 it seems to get the job done. Throwing a locker in those axles would be cheaper than the price difference of the rubicon.
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post #8 of 18 Old 08-17-2013, 07:35 PM
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I have both and really don't care what you get. I just thinks it funny how quickly the Rubi is discounted. Most people will not upgrade the transfer case, a 2012 or 2013 with 4:10 gears can handle 35s without the expense of a re-gear. then the next thing I hear is that the transfer case is only good if you rock crawl, well it's also really nice when you try to engine brake down steep climbs and has even more impact if you have an automatic. Whatever you get enjoy!

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post #9 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 05:17 AM
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I have both and really don't care what you get. I just thinks it funny how quickly the Rubi is discounted. Most people will not upgrade the transfer case, a 2012 or 2013 with 4:10 gears can handle 35s without the expense of a re-gear. then the next thing I hear is that the transfer case is only good if you rock crawl, well it's also really nice when you try to engine brake down steep climbs and has even more impact if you have an automatic. Whatever you get enjoy!
I would never discount the Rubicon.

It is the most capable off-orad vehicle from the factory.

If I had the $ that's what I would be driving.

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post #10 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 05:10 PM
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I just swapped from a four to a two door JK Rubi. Both are good, but Unless you NEED the space, get a two door. It is so much more a wheeler. More power, better mileage, due to less weight.
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post #11 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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I just swapped from a four to a two door JK Rubi. Both are good, but Unless you NEED the space, get a two door. It is so much more a wheeler. More power, better mileage, due to less weight.
Yeah Ive actually been looking at 2 door rubicon a now. So much cheaper. I had wondered about that....
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post #12 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 06:04 PM
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I just swapped from a four to a two door JK Rubi. Both are good, but Unless you NEED the space, get a two door. It is so much more a wheeler. More power, better mileage, due to less weight.
Funny, I was thinking this the other day as I was cursing the deceptively small cargo area of the 4 door I occasionally try to use for work.

Maybe I should swap to a 2drjkr, and use the extra cash for a beater yota truck.

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post #13 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 08:13 PM
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If you're only going to go with 33's, the Sport D30 will be fine. If you think you will benefit from lockers, rails, and a lower TC, get the Rubi.

Also if you might go with 35's, the Rubi is the way to go.

I bought the '12 Sport 4 door and did a front axle swap for a Rubi D44 then put an ARB in the factory rear D44. I should've bought the Rubi, but it wasn't in the budget at the time of purchase.
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post #14 of 18 Old 08-18-2013, 09:29 PM
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I had a 2 door sport TJ before my now JKUR and I can tell you a few things 1. If you go off road you will quickly learn that the break-over angle sucks on the Unlimited and you will bottom out. With that said the JK has decent skids and can handle mild to slightly moderate abuse. 2. The difference in ease of trails is night and day when you have a Rubicon. Trails I struggled with before were child's play with the Rubicon and it's lockers and 4:1 low range. I will also say it is super convenient to simply push a button to disconnect your sway bar.

It's like this, we bought a 4 door because we have 2 kids that love to ride and we drive the Jeep every day. We bought a Rubicon because we love to go off road and the most common thing we always heard (and even said ourselves) was from people that didn't have a Rubi that they wished they had lockers. Now you can put lockers in for much less than you can buy a Rubi for but consider the Dana 44 and the transfer case and push button sway bar release and it's worth it...

The Dana 44 comes into play when you start considering larger tires (which you will with a 4 door to make up for the break-over angle).

I/we love our 4 door and I'm so happy I got a Rubicon I wouldn't have done it any other way, the questions you need to ask are 1. Do you plan on wheeling and how much 2. Do you need the extra room of a 4 door and 3. What can you comfortably afford. Then get what you can and wheel the heck out of it.
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post #15 of 18 Old 08-19-2013, 08:19 AM
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I went from a '92 YJ to a 2010 2 door and now a 2012 4 door. The first thing you'll notice is how quiet the JK will be, even with the soft top. The ride is spectacular compared to the YJ. If you drive stick, and buy a JK in stick, you'll have to retrain your brain to remember there's a 6th gear. Also, I had a hard time relearning that you need to push the stick forward to down shift. Good luck!
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