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post #1 of Old 02-16-2010, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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Stock headlights/fogs are terrible... Best lighting mods?

I've been looking into replacing the factory headlights or adding some driving lamps to better light my way, but I wanted to get all of your input on which light kits or mods are a hit vs. miss. I'm not looking to spend $$$$, but I want a reasonable solution because I can't even tell my headlights are on at night. TIA.

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post #2 of Old 02-16-2010, 01:35 PM
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Here are some threads discussing headlights that I found using the search function. There's probably some good information in them that you can use.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/0...rrible-632755/

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/d...-my-jk-858502/

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/h...rrible-865573/

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I think the first step you should take is ensuring that they are adjusted correctly. Mine were WAY off from the factory. The low's were too high and I got flashed very often. The highs were completely useless because they shined up into the trees and didn't even hit the road.

After I adjusted them it was awesome. I am very satisfied with the stock bulbs. I would still like to upgrade the lights eventually though.

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I think the first step you should take is ensuring that they are adjusted correctly. Mine were WAY off from the factory. The low's were too high and I got flashed very often. The highs were completely useless because they shined up into the trees and didn't even hit the road.

After I adjusted them it was awesome. I am very satisfied with the stock bulbs. I would still like to upgrade the lights eventually though.
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This doesn't get said enough. Especially after I lifted mine, I thought the lights were REALLY bad. In fact, I've been lurking in all the threads Hilldweller has been posting about lights and even emailed Daniel Stern.

Then, just on a whim, I double-checked my aiming. I think my lights were a good 4-5 inches off just ten feet away! So I fixed that, and the difference is pretty amazing. They still suck compared to some other vehicles, but they are tons better than they were when they were misaligned.

It's two screws and a torx head driver. Can't hurt.

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I think the first step you should take is ensuring that they are adjusted correctly. Mine were WAY off from the factory. The low's were too high and I got flashed very often. The highs were completely useless because they shined up into the trees and didn't even hit the road.

After I adjusted them it was awesome. I am very satisfied with the stock bulbs. I would still like to upgrade the lights eventually though.
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If you can't tell that they are on, then there must be a problem. I agree, there are always better options, but after adjusting mine I don't have a problem with the stock ones.

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I replaced the bulbs with Hella bulbs. Seem whiter and brighter. They have blue bulbs for both headlights and foglights.

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I did the IPF upgrade and am very pleased with the results.

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Thanks for the help, I'm looking into some 130w driving lights to mount onto my brushguard. But I'm going to try adjusting my headlights in the mean time. I do miss having fog lights, they helped a bit but my mopar bumper doesn't have them so its miserable trying to see at night without street lights.

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As others have said, check the aim, mine were up in the trees too. The factory fogs IMO are quite good. The stock lights on the JK are much improved over my TJ's which I had replaced with Fat Boys.

I will probably upgrade the JK's lights but don't feel a pressing urge at the moment. I feel they are adequate for the speeds that this vehicle was designed to safely run at.

In this life you get what you pay for, I was driving my 98 Landcrusier up the CA coast last night and the hi-beams are great!-- but you pay two or three times as much for one compared to a Jeep.

For $100-$200 you can do a lot of upgrading in the lighting department. The good members at this board are doing a lot of sorting out the different possibilities right now and I am greatly appreciative of their efforts.

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Yeah I have to turn on my factory fogs to even see the road in front of me.....maybe I need to adjust mine. Are the adjustment screws and torx painfully obviously located, or do you have to know where to look?

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I know I saw it on here before, but what is the process for aiming the headlights. I need to know the proper measurements for the marks on the wall etc. Also I would think I would want to aim my driving lights at the same marks.

If someone could posted them up again or if you have a link that would be great.


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Sorry...found it.

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Aiming is important.

Here's my Hella reflector with Osram bulbs install:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/r...ht-kit-961071/

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I also have the RallyLights/Susquehanna Motorsports H4 headlight upgrade. The difference between the Rally Lights and the IPF upgrade from Northridge 4x4 seems be to European vs DOT. The beam pattern good for both, but they are different. The IPFs are have a flat cutoff while the Hella E-Codes sweep up to the passengers side for street signs.

Here are pictures of my Hella E-Codes from Rally Lights with 130w Osram bulbs (3200 lumens)

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I also have the RallyLights/Susquehanna Motorsports H4 headlight upgrade. The difference between the Rally Lights and the IPF upgrade from Northridge 4x4 seems be to European vs DOT. The beam pattern good for both, but they are different. The IPFs are have a flat cutoff while the Hella E-Codes sweep up to the passengers side for street signs.
More than that really.
The Northridge kit uses a blue-tinted bulb that I'm not sure is compliant for either DOT or Europe (can't use the blue ones in Europe anyhow).
It also contains a plug adapter pigtail rather than a relayed harness with upgraded wiring.

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