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Unread 08-11-2006, 04:44 PM   #1
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Second Update - JK at Camp Jeep (more pics)

Here you go guys... few more notes. I saw one of the JKs had a pretty banged up muffler... definitely needs a skid. I saw that front plastic sway bar motor cover also... all mangled up. Keep in mind, all these trails are "home made" and nothing is challenging on it per se... so aftermarket has to pick up on some skids no question.

The hardtop screws into the sound bar... that's what those holes are for. The other 2 panels are fairly light in weight, and come right out without too much effort. The under the floor storage is very small... can't get much in there. Not that it is even secure anyways... all plastic.

There is A LOT of space in the engine compartment... makes ya wonder... You thinking what I'm thinking? Hopefully down the road...

The fan is electric... I haven't seen anything but that in all the Jeeps I looked at.

On a side note, the JK Rubicon on 32s sits lower than my TJ with a 2" lift/1" body lift and 32s. Here are the pictures:










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Unread 08-11-2006, 04:44 PM   #2
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Unread 08-11-2006, 04:44 PM   #3
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One one of the last pictures.. the Wheels on that white X look intersting. Do you have a closer shot?
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Rocky, I see a Superlift TV show sign in the background of one of those pictures. Are they filming there for an upcoming episode???
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Unread 08-11-2006, 07:29 PM   #6
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Superlift has a pretty good sized tent/trailer set up here, but I don't think I saw them shooting any film.
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Unread 08-11-2006, 07:48 PM   #7
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Thanks for the updates, Rocky--you're doing a great job! I drove the JK Sahara and the JK Rubicon at CJ today. The JK Sahara was not very impressive to me. I mean, even in 4 Lo it didn't have the same punch as my 2005 Unlimited. Maybe it's the difference between mine being a 6-spd. and the JK having an auto. But I think it's more of a lack of low-end grunt from the V6. I punched the Sahara from a dead stop and it slowly lunged forward with no gusto. The Rubicon felt on par with the low-speed crawling ability of my LJ, but it also has 4:1 gearing while my LJ has the standard NP231 case with 2.72 gears. I'm just worried that Jeep has strayed too far away from their core Wrangler customer to appease the mall crawler types. Power windows, leather seats, and 18" wheels--no thanks!

You summed it up good in another post--Jeep has their hearts in the right place but they've taken a couple steps backward. My news from the Wrangler roundtable meeting:

*A diesel is in the Wrangler's future in a couple or so years, but it will be different than the 2.8 CRD in the Liberty
*A possible hybrid version soon to combat the Wranglers' poor fuel mileage
*A very good possibility that the Rubicon suspension will be reengineered to accomodate taller tires in the next 1-2 years, probably 33s (17" equivalent sizing)
*A new V6 with variable valve timing, more low-end grunt, and better fuel mileage
*17" or 18" wheels from now on only (depending on model), with 19's in the future for the hip-hop crowd

One more thing. One of the Tony Hawk gang was given a new 4 door Rubicon Unlimited to drive around on the Skyjacker Owner's Playground for the purpose of enthusing the crowd. This guy beat, bumped, and scraped his way through the course at high speed, totally beating the snot out of this poor JK. Then he hit the deep mud pit at about 30 mph and launched the truck three feet in the air out the other end. For an encore, he did it again, but got about 4 feet off the ground. He landed hard on the left front tire, crunched the bumper, bent the rim, and broke something on the suspension (mucho loud banging when he tried to drive again). Tony Hawk Guy=1, Jeep JK=0.
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*A possible hybrid version soon to combat the Wranglers' poor fuel mileage

If it is done right - electric motors have a maximum torque at 0rpm.

If you could just have electric motors on the front and rear axels, and have the gas engine work in a narrow rpm band, just generating electricity - this thing would move.

But that is probably will not happen too soon.
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One one of the last pictures.. the Wheels on that white X look intersting. Do you have a closer shot?
That is actually a picture of a picture...

No other information, other than the picture... of the picture.

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Rocky, I see a Superlift TV show sign in the background of one of those pictures. Are they filming there for an upcoming episode???
Not that I know of, they have a Liberty, Commander, Grand Cherokee and Wrangler all on 35s however on display.
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That is actually a picture of a picture...

No other information, other than the picture... of the picture.

Thats Cool. The Wheels looked "Different" I thought they were a "Deep Dish" version of the current wheel, like the canyon/ravine wheel.
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Thats Cool. The Wheels looked "Different" I thought they were a "Deep Dish" version of the current wheel, like the canyon/ravine wheel.
They are different, that is the main reason I took the picture. The other one (red JK) is all blinged out... chrome mirrors, bumpers, etc.
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I'm just worried that Jeep has strayed too far away from their core Wrangler customer to appease the mall crawler types. Power windows, leather seats, and 18" wheels--no thanks!
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Did anyone else notice the side mirror mounted to the tub?
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Did anyone else notice the side mirror mounted to the tub?
It's a relocation bracket that will be offered from Mopar.
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If it is done right - electric motors have a maximum torque at 0rpm.

If you could just have electric motors on the front and rear axels, and have the gas engine work in a narrow rpm band, just generating electricity - this thing would move.

But that is probably will not happen too soon.
Exactly. . . For those that don't think electric motors produce torque. . . go look at a train. They're driven by electric motors. The big diesels in them power a generator that drive electric motors on each wheel. HUGE torque compared to a gas / diesel motors.
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