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post #181 of 295 Old 07-17-2012, 09:18 PM
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That's is why we all run Detroit in the front and ARB in the rear!.
Why not Detroit in the rear as well?
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With the ARB, if you need it to act like it is open you can make it do so. If it is auto-locked then you can't do this.

For pure rocks, it doesn't really matter. Go fast rigs, however, are much different.
So you are saying they do the ARB in the back and Detroit in the front because they have go fast rigs?
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So you are saying they do the ARB in the back and Detroit in the front because they have go fast rigs?
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I deleted my post for a reason, lol.

ARB in the back makes sense for what they do. Detroit would always have power going to it which means less control of the rig in turns and what not. Detroits would have a tendency to push the rig where it wants to go.

Detroit in the front, however, I'm still thinking about. I guess it should only really be locked in 4wd, but I don't know much about racing so I'm lost as to the actual benefit.
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I deleted my post for a reason, lol.

ARB in the back makes sense for what they do. Detroit would always have power going to it which means less control of the rig in turns and what not. Detroits would have a tendency to push the rig where it wants to go.

Detroit in the front, however, I'm still thinking about. I guess it should only really be locked in 4wd, but I don't know much about racing so I'm lost as to the actual benefit.
Well, maybe the Detroit locker just fit better in his front than an ARB..., hopefully he will enlighten us soon.
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The Detroit in the rear will not let you turn as it will push you straight. One less thing you need to worry about. No need for switches and hose and not being able to lock the front.

A Detroit locked front in all of our street driven rigs as well. In 2WD you don't know its there. In 4WD when locked you can still turn. Your tires pull you wherever they are pointed. The back having a selectable locker is more important. Letting you pivot when you turn instead of pushing you.

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A Detroit locked front in all of our street driven rigs as well. In 2WD you don't know its there. In 4WD when locked you can still turn. Your tires pull you wherever they are pointed. The back having a selectable locker is more important. Letting you pivot when you turn instead of pushing you.
Interesting, those I wheel with who have selectable lockers front and rear often need to unlock the front so that they can properly turn at times; so you're saying that isn't the case? They of course don't have any kind of assisted steering, so that probably is the difference.

The one reason most up here go with selectable lockers F/R is mainly for the snow. We do a good bit of snow wheeling, and there have been plenty of times where being locked causes the rig to not go where you point it. Unlocking always seems to fix those problems. But again, that could be more of just the rear axle needing to be unlocked. I have neither front or rear lockers for now, so I have no frame of reference.
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GY MTRS? No clue.

Falken has them in the works and I have seen the beginnings of them. So, hopefully by KOH13 we'll have them.

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GY MTRS? No clue.

Falken has them in the works and I have seen the beginnings of them. So, hopefully by KOH13 we'll have them.
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Interesting, those I wheel with who have selectable lockers front and rear often need to unlock the front so that they can properly turn at times; so you're saying that isn't the case? They of course don't have any kind of assisted steering, so that probably is the difference.

The one reason most up here go with selectable lockers F/R is mainly for the snow. We do a good bit of snow wheeling, and there have been plenty of times where being locked causes the rig to not go where you point it. Unlocking always seems to fix those problems. But again, that could be more of just the rear axle needing to be unlocked. I have neither front or rear lockers for now, so I have no frame of reference.
Assist or full hydro is recommended for sure. Steering in the rocks locked can be a pain in the butt with it. But steering in the rocks without assist is a pain in the butt no matter what you have in the front!

In the snow and ice I prefer a Detroit in the front as you get pulled where ever you point the rig. And, you are right the rear just pushes the rig straight in the snow and ice as the front has little grip.

When you do get lockers get a selectable for the rear and try a lunch box or Detroit in the front. They are less money and headaches.

Nothing wrong with having a selectable in front. There are pros to having a selectable up front. But for John Currie and a lot of us they rarely if ever see the need for one. We wheel pretty much all over the western US.

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The Detroit in the rear will not let you turn as it will push you straight. One less thing you need to worry about. No need for switches and hose and not being able to lock the front.

A Detroit locked front in all of our street driven rigs as well. In 2WD you don't know its there. In 4WD when locked you can still turn. Your tires pull you wherever they are pointed. The back having a selectable locker is more important. Letting you pivot when you turn instead of pushing you.
OK, interesting, most people always say that a selectable locker in the front is better. I have a Detroit in the back of my TJ and a Powertrax No-Slip locker up front, always loved that I donīt have to worry about switches, hoses, compressor etc., and it is maintenance free. And you have to worry less when jumping about a broken axle, I saw quite a few broken axles from people who forgot to unlock their ARB front locker.
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