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Unread 07-03-2014, 11:48 PM   #1
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So earlier today I had a viper alarm system installed in my Jeep and after the install the ESP and ABS light turned on.

They took it to their mechanic who said that it read a code that the ABS pump voltage was too high. We didn't get out of the shop until 9 p.m. They promised to have this fully fixed on Tuesday.

I'm just wondering if you think its safe to drive out 2 hours and do some four wheeling over the weekend with my ABS / esp disabled.

By the way I'm new to the forum attached are pictures of my Jeep. Thanks for your help guys.

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Unread 07-04-2014, 05:15 AM   #2
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1. Very nice Rubi, I love the color!
2. You should exercise extra caution while driving on the road. Be careful when making sudden stops or making sharp turns, with the ABS and ESP disabled.

But once you get off-road, the ESP would be disabled (for the most part), if you were to go into 4LO, anyways. So, it really would not matter. This is my opinion only, not fact, *insert legalese talk here*.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 06:26 AM   #3
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Yes, they have been doing it for decades before they even invented ABS and ESP. When you are in 4 lo it shuts off anyways.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 09:02 AM   #4
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So, if I install a Viper alarm, it will disable the nanny-state BS?
Sweet!
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Unread 07-04-2014, 09:23 AM   #5
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Yes, they have been doing it for decades before they even invented ABS and ESP. When you are in 4 lo it shuts off anyways.
While this is true, the Brake system in older vehicles was mechanical/power assisted. The JK has much more computer involvement in the brake system due to ESP and BLD, so it may not work as well as expected.

I would drive carefully on road, leave extra stopping distance until you know how it will react.

Offroad I wouldn't be too concerned.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 09:35 AM   #6
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I cut my wire....its off 100% of the time...damn thing wreaks havok on corners and after wheeling.....don't dig that feature on a lifted jeep....
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Unread 07-04-2014, 09:44 AM   #7
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While this is true, the Brake system in older vehicles was mechanical/power assisted. The JK has much more computer involvement in the brake system due to ESP and BLD, so it may not work as well as expected.

I would drive carefully on road, leave extra stopping distance until you know how it will react.

Offroad I wouldn't be too concerned.
With the ABS disabled the JK's brake system is exactly the same as older mechanical/power assisted brake systems.Nothing in that regard has changed with the mechanical part of the system.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 09:55 AM   #8
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Seriously I had an old beater Subaru where the ABS controller malfunctioned and it was not worth the 900 to replace it. Pulled the ABS out of the circuit and drove it for years that way.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 10:11 AM   #9
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My only word of caution is --

If there's an accident (hiwy) and it's serious enough to goto court--and you're at fault, you're liability just went skyhigh--

Chances are super remote, but-

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Unread 07-04-2014, 10:50 AM   #10
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My only word of caution is --

If there's an accident (hiwy) and it's serious enough to goto court--and you're at fault, you're liability just went skyhigh--

Chances are super remote, but-

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Yep since your getting a discount for ABS/ESP and all that.
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Unread 07-04-2014, 04:23 PM   #11
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My only word of caution is --

If there's an accident (hiwy) and it's serious enough to goto court--and you're at fault, you're liability just went skyhigh--

Chances are super remote, but-

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Better make sure your window tint is legal limit, bumper doest exceed a certain height or headlights either.....just saying....lol
if they want you they can find a dozen ways.....
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Unread 07-06-2014, 02:35 PM   #12
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hmmm... so how would I turn it off permenantly? without cutting the wire, i mean- I'd like to have the OPTION of putting it back on at some point.
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Unread 07-06-2014, 04:45 PM   #13
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hmmm... so how would I turn it off permenantly? without cutting the wire, i mean- I'd like to have the OPTION of putting it back on at some point.
Pull the fuse but you must inform your insurance your doing so.If you get caught at fault in a bad accident and they do some searching and find the ABS/ESP was disabled your SOL and 100% liable.
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Unread 07-06-2014, 05:20 PM   #14
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Unread 07-07-2014, 09:00 AM   #15
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Well pulling the fuse will leave u without a speedometer also....and that e brake light on all the time

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