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Rockridge 4WD IS Taking Zone Offroad Suspension Lift Kits ZONE 4.25" combo lift for TJ available at Rockridge4wG2 Disc Brake Conversion Kit for Jeep Wrangler YJ TJ LJ Ch

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Unread 09-27-2013, 09:55 AM   #31
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Unread 09-27-2013, 09:56 AM   #32
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And yes with ours no DS upgrade needed, now like many systems around this height you may need to upgrade your DS's down the road.
So why is yours different if its at the same height..?
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Unread 09-27-2013, 11:08 AM   #33
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Not avoiding it, I thought you could learn something new today.

Then please teach. Because it really seemed like you where avoiding questions and answering with half truths.


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There you go.

A lot, do a search on the various companies that are out there that offer a radius arm set up.
What other companies turn the stock length arms into radius arms?


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Again it has been used in OE applications for a LONG time, and in aftermarket applications. There is a reason for joints that flex

What OE Radius arm setup most resembles the Jeeps axle mount locations separation and offset?

How does the Jeeps axle mounting locations differ from most OE radius arm designs?

Do radius style upper arms as found on a Jeep twist and push the axle in opposite direction when the suspension flexes (1 side up/ 1 side down)?

All of those OE applications where designed around a Radius arm suspension and have axle mounts intended to be used with a radius arm. The OE applications do not take an axle setup up for a 4 link+ trackbar suspension and try to turn it into a radius arm suspension.


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What is the cost involved \ compared to a radius style set up?
How much will it cost to replace and have a new upper control arm bracket welded on after a set of radius style arms twist and rip it off?


Do long arms compared to short arms provide less bind for a given amount of axle travel?

Would long arms allow more axle movement with less twist/pull/bind the upper arms create when compared to stock length/ short radius style arms?
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Unread 09-27-2013, 11:26 AM   #34
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Dont concern urself with long or short arm debate. The jk comes from the factory with a mid arm setup. Just get some adjustable lower front arms at the least and u should be fine with the type of wheeling u say ur going to do.

I agree with you when looking at the stock 4 link with trackbar setup. There's an adequate amount of control arm to work with. I have no plans of going with long arms.

That's just not the case when going to a radius style arm though. It's not a "long arm vs short" arm debate, You need to take the twist and bind involved with a Jeeps radius style control arms into consideration.

The separation and offset of the upper arm axle mount combined with a main arm that short, immediately starts to twist, rotate and push/pull in opposite directions. The joint's "flex" does not absorb any of the push/pull force and only a little bit of the twist.

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