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Mfrancis 09-25-2013 09:22 PM

Rusty's 3.25 kit
 
I would like anyone to chime in if they have or are currently running this lift. I am looking for maximum amount of lift without changing driveline components.

There is a basic kit:
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...basic-kit.html

And an advanced kit:
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...anced-kit.html

I like the thought of more adjustable components. If you are using this set up:

1)How do the shocks in the kit hold up on/off road?
2)Have you had any problems with driveline components wearing out? (I know they claim no driveline modifications.)

Thanks in advance!

SLADE 09-26-2013 06:38 AM

Rusty's is not worth the time to even look at.


Aside from them being liars that are incompetent when it comes to shipping a junk product....


Long radius arm style control arms bind enough to tear brackets off, turning short arms into a radius arms is ignorant.

spyder6 09-26-2013 09:15 AM

Rustys sucks

RustysOffroad 09-26-2013 10:22 AM

Our systems are proven on both the trail and the road.
Numerous companies use a radius style set up because it works.
If you have any questions feel free to call us or PM us.
Thanks!

SLADE 09-26-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustysOffroad (Post 16334785)

Numerous companies use a radius style set up because it works.


Radius style arms twist and bind. They work against each other when the suspension flexes. When one side pushes forward, the other pulls back. It's one thing to use it in a long arm setup but to cram that amount of twist and bind into a short or mid arm setup..... Come on, even you know better.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RustysOffroad (Post 16334785)
If you have any questions feel free to call us or PM us.
Thanks!


Piss poor customer service that is full of lies. No thanks. I tried to do business with your company and you failed 3 times. All I got was BS and lies. No thanks. There are much better products available from companies that don't have to lie to their customers to cover their own butt.

RustysOffroad 09-26-2013 11:37 AM

Again, radius arms work, there is a reason MANY companies use them, and are use in OE applications, you don't have to like them, and like short/long arms has its pros/cons.
In regards to our customer service, I don't know your particular issue, so I can't comment to the issues you may have had with us, but in general our customers are happy with our products and services.

RockyClymer 09-26-2013 11:42 AM

Jeez Slade, I think for once we agree...I think Rusty's stuff is pretty good on full size trucks, I just do not think that translates to good for a JK from opinions and experience posted on this and other forums...that is an opinion, not my personal experience.

SLADE 09-26-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyClymer (Post 16337009)
Jeez Slade, I think for once we agree....


We probly agree on a lot more than you think. :laugh:

SLADE 09-26-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustysOffroad (Post 16336905)
Again, radius arms work, there is a reason MANY companies use them, and are use in OE applications, you don't have to like them, and like short/long arms has its pros/cons.

How many companies use a radius style arm on a stock length short control arm?

Do radius style upper arms twist and push the axle in opposite direction when the suspension flexes (1 side up/ 1 side down)?

Do long arms compared to short arms provide less bind for a given amount of axle travel?

I don't have anything against stock length arms. This isn't a long arm short arm concern. If you would have at least put the effort into your "Advanced" kit to give your radius arms a long arm to work off of, I could have atleast sucked it up enough to keep my mouth shut and just written it off as "MANY companies use them".

Mfrancis 09-26-2013 12:10 PM

Wow, some strong opinions there. I will not be turning this into a rock crawler, it will see sand, mud, and trails. I'm looking for overall better off road capabilities. So what would your recommendation be to run 35s with no rubbing issues, a kit that is complete with beefier components than the stock set up, and won't ruin drive line components?

RockyClymer 09-26-2013 12:24 PM

OK, I am opinionated, there are several very good kits that fit this requirement...I suggest something in the range of 2.5 inches as that is all that is needed to run 35s. I use the OME kit and their Nitrocharger shocks, and run wheels with 4.5 inches of backspacing...

Mfrancis 09-26-2013 12:39 PM

^^^Please don't take that in a negative way. I am glad for your responses. I use this to gain information to make the right decision, as I am in new territory here. This will be a hefty chunk of change to drop on an already $30k expenditure. I don't make minimum wage, but I do have four children, so I don't want to waste money on something that will be disappointing. I would like Rusty's to answer your questions, too.

222Doc 09-26-2013 12:48 PM

Op might want to also KNOW. the lifts in general spring lifts net more than what claimed. Though this real depends on the Quality of the springs. How they load and unload. Most High end kits use a progressive rate spring or dual rate. At 3.25+ you are into other "needed changes" range of lift. Most lifts measure rear and level it a bit. So say this rustes rear springs ride at 3.5 the front is closer to 4" You are well past the range of drive shaft flex if this kit gives the range of flex equal to shock travel say 10".

Drive shafts. Y pipe changes. Once over 3" lift, the steering draglink is rather steep as is the track bar. Going with a Flip drag and raised track bar will help keep the on road handling and steering response much better. With a better roll center on the track bar. This needs at least 3+-" bumps, so for 3+ lifts.

I am in the camp too of works better/should be on long arm set up. Most the top lift people even long arm are not using that setup. Try a triangulated 4 link is the "way". Better have real deep pockets or know how to fabricate.

This stuff adds up rather fast its more than that lift.

Mfrancis 09-26-2013 01:00 PM

That's exactly the kind of stuff I'm worried about. Also another reason I was hoping to hear from people who have used this set up or are using this set up. Maybe there is a reason why I am not......

Your reply confirms my initial intentions, don't go over 2.5". I saw the 3.25" set up and wondered if it would carry with it a laundry list of other components to modify. Their website claims no driveline modifications are needed, but I am skeptical about it.

RockyClymer 09-26-2013 01:42 PM

I think that is not a fair statement to say no other components needed...check the discussions on this forum and other forums for a 3+ inch lift. If you don't need other parts right away, you will in the short future! 222Doc speaks the truth...


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