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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:23 AM   #1
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To rubicon or not.

I am looking at buying a 2011 Wrangler. Not going to be doing any rock crawling, will be mudding and lots of beach riding. Basic question. Is it worth getting the Rubi for what I am doing or should I go Sahara/Sport. Will be doing mods either way, bumpers, winch etc. Just wondering if the Rubi is worth extra money for me or not. Also will be DD.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:32 AM   #2
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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:36 AM   #3
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If you are really not going to rock crawl or do severe 4 wheeelin, then go with the sport. The 4.10 gears are going to kill your gas milleage. Plus the money you will spend on the RUBI, will pay for all your accessories.

I have a 2dr Sport, very basic, Handles great in severe weather. I had the similar issue with buying the sport vs the Mountain edition. Glad I stuck with the basics.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:38 AM   #4
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With the BLD system on the sport, I'd go that route but would add a snorkel and tie all of the vent tubes into it. Hydrolocking is an issue you won't want to face. I was mudding with mine and burned up the engine fan motor. I'm not sure what you can do about that issue, though. Buy a TJ?
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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:42 AM   #5
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I went with the Rubicon in 2010. My previous Jeep was a yj s. I figured I'd dump money into her and build the ultimate offroad machine. Well life happened and I never got around to what I really wanted, so this time around I'd get a head start.

If you can afford it, I say go with the Rubicon. In the least, the Rubicon holds its value better than a Sport or Sahara.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:43 AM   #6
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In my Sahara, My mods come very slow. I'm waiting to buy the lift and tires cash and can't seem to not use perfectly good stock tires until they need to be replaced. I've had no problems with the beach or even more difficult trails. I've gotten high centered plenty on trails, but that is what skid plates are for. The JK will do more stock than you can imagine. Tires right now are my weak spot, but those can be cured by buying a set of Rubi take off's from Craigslist or waiting for a lift/tire combo like I'm going with next year.

I went through the same dilemma and there are probably 100 threads similar to yours in this section. Best advice, price everything out, weigh the options, and go with your gut instinct.

It is your Jeep, and I don't think anyone here regrets buying what they have....unless of course they come out with a Diesel in the US and then _maybe_.....but that is another thread
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Unread 10-05-2010, 12:16 PM   #7
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I bought the 2009 2DR Sahara as that's what was on the lot in the price and color I wanted. Also bought a 2009 Unlimited-X the next day. Aside from creature comforts, there was no difference. I wondered why I had spent the extra for the Sahara trim package when I swapped out the wheels, tires, and suspension within a few months. Next time around, it's base trim for me. Hopefully when you're done, your ride will have little resemblance to the original anyway. A couple Jeep mechs were talking to me about the Rubi. Both told me that unless I were to do a lot of rock climbing there was little reason to justify it for occasional wheeling. My Tru-Blu Sahara gets me places, like swamps and rocky crags I'd never think to take my
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Unread 10-05-2010, 12:41 PM   #8
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he 4.10 gears are going to kill your gas milleage.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 01:19 PM   #9
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I am looking at buying a 2011 Wrangler. Not going to be doing any rock crawling, will be mudding and lots of beach riding. Basic question. Is it worth getting the Rubi for what I am doing or should I go Sahara/Sport. Will be doing mods either way, bumpers, winch etc. Just wondering if the Rubi is worth extra money for me or not. Also will be DD.
For me it was basically like buying a new Mustang/Camaro/Charger/etc... Sure, I could go with the V6 option which is completely capable of propelling the car to any posted highway speed just like any other car. Or I could spend a little more and get the V8, get slightly worse gas mileage, and potentially get a big stupid grin permanently stuck on my face.

I opted for the Rubicon. While I didn't know if I'd ever have need of the D44s, electric lockers, electric swaybar, and taller gearing again when I bought it (I had just moved down from the mountains and sold my '76 Cherokee) - I've since used every single 'extra' on the Jeep many, many times even though I have to drive much, much further to put them to use.

As my granddad used to say; it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 01:23 PM   #10
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I recently bought a 2dr Sahara in June and have been exremely satisfied with it. I would def. go Sahara over the sport. Sound system is unreal, keyless entry w/ power windows, 18" rims with decent tires. Overall an amazing Jeep. Haven't done any rock crawling with it, but it handles great in the mud and on the beach with loose sand...also in the lake too! Good luck with your decision!
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Unread 10-05-2010, 01:45 PM   #11
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The lower gearing in the Rubi transfer case isn't what you want in the mud or sand.

A Sport or Sahara would be a better choice IMO.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 01:46 PM   #12
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Aside from creature comforts, there was no difference. I wondered why I had spent the extra for the Sahara trim package when I swapped out the wheels, tires, and suspension within a few months. Next time around, it's base trim for me.
FWIW, if you get a base-trim package and add all of the "creature comforts" back to it, you come out to be within $285 of the Sahara's price tag:

air conditioning
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Unread 10-05-2010, 01:57 PM   #13
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Ha, I think everyone is gonna say rubicon again... I wanted the RUBI myself, but I also believed that with the money I am saving with the sport, I could slowly start buying parts for my build plan and have something I built for my personal wants and needs. And I think the best part is, I am not paying interest on all the goodies I buy for my jeep. Like you would if you were to pay the premium for the rubicon. If you think about it, you could easily buy a 2" old man emu lift, JKS adjustable disconnects, Eaton electronic locking differentials for the front and rear, and by the time you have accumulated those parts you should have worn out the stock tires. Then slap some 35's on and you should be able to run just about any trail you want, within reason. With all that, you should still be under the price of the rubi, give or take. But remember, you still arent paying interest for the next six years on all the parts you bought. And it can be argued, but the aftermarket parts are of better quality. This is just my reasoning for going with the sport model and is pretty much my build plan, although mine consists of bumpers, winch, all sorts of nick nacks.

the rubi is very tempting and the choice is all yours
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Unread 10-05-2010, 02:01 PM   #14
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Rubicon has better resale and if you get an X with the Power Windows and all that comes with it, it is only $3000 or so less than a Rubicon. Rubicon gets better gears, better tires, better suspension, lockers, and electronic disconnects..
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Unread 10-05-2010, 02:05 PM   #15
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The 4.10 gears are going to kill your gas milleage.
Go ahead and explain that thought.

To the OP, it doesn't sound like the Rubi would help you much. You need wheelspeed in mud and 4:1 would probably be too low. To anyone else debating the subject, IMO always go with the Rubi if you'll be going to 35-37" tires and hitting good trails and rocks. The extra cost of the Rubi will easily pay for itself with the stronger axles, deeper gears, stronger t-case, and lockers front and rear....I couldn't care less for the electronic disconnect links. If you're planning on larger axles (60's or a FF14b) and 40"+ tires, it's a tossup. Either start with the cheapest JK you can find or go with the Rubi and recoop some of the cash by selling off the bling axles. I started with a basic TJ and would be $$$ ahead now if I had started with a Rubi.
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