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post #16 of 32 Old 08-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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The RE Arms are adjustable. Pinion correction is fairly straightforward. Front and rear. So instead of calling the long arms for the sake of them being actually longer, which seems to have you in total disagreement. Can I call them adjustable arms, which they are as well. And we can be a bit more agreeable?

Either way, I respect your opinion, and am just expressing mine as well.


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You can call them adjustable arms, but that doesn't detract from the point that they're a lot longer than they need to be. If he already has adjustable arms that came with his kit he isn't gaining anything worthwhile to justify the cost and time investment. JK arms are already in the kid 20s for length, a far cry longer than the 15-16" control arms of the TJ. lengthening them even further past 23-24" isn't going to give you a significant advantage in performance at all.

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They're junk. No arguing about it.

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Great info. Although I will disagree. I have the 3.5" RE lift on my '07 JKU, and the 4.5 'adjustable arm' on the missus '09 and it articulates much better than mine. On the same trail, she gets through with little to no body roll. Mine gets to the control arm arc end and I am done. No more traction until I push through. I would love to have those arms on my rig. Not any time soon though. We both run 37's, mine are MTRs, hers are Toyo MTs. All that said, I wouldn't pay $500 for those arms unless the seller replaces all the bushings. Poly Performance makes a great replacement set.

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Thanks guys for the input. I passed on that lift and got a 3" teraflex lift instead. I will upgrade to a 4.5" later on.

Thanks again for all the feedback!

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I have one of the few 2 doors that I have ever seen with a long arm and 5.7 Hemi conversion. If I had to it again I would not do a long arm, dont get me wrong it drives great.
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post #22 of 32 Old 08-19-2013, 07:27 AM
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Here is the missus' 2DR.


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Great info. Although I will disagree. I have the 3.5" RE lift on my '07 JKU, and the 4.5 'adjustable arm' on the missus '09 and it articulates much better than mine. On the same trail, she gets through with little to no body roll. Mine gets to the control arm arc end and I am done. No more traction until I push through. I would love to have those arms on my rig. Not any time soon though. We both run 37's, mine are MTRs, hers are Toyo MTs. All that said, I wouldn't pay $500 for those arms unless the seller replaces all the bushings. Poly Performance makes a great replacement set.

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can you explain what you mean by getting to the control arm arc end?
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can you explain what you mean by getting to the control arm arc end?
The control arm bracket mounted to the axle creates the 'stop' of the arc. My lift is 3.5" about the max for the stock control arms. Running disconnected, the axle will drop out until the axle side hits the stop, and the same for the frame mount. Long before the spring or shock reach their limits.

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Idk why you went long arms and still have the same shock size as a mid-arm with the same amount of lift.

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Talking two different rigs here. Mine" 07 JKU with 3.5" Rubicon Express standard lift with OME Long travel shocks. This one does not flex as much as:
Hers: '09 JK 4.5" Rubicon Express Long Arm kit.

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It's more than long arms though. The factory JK location points will articulate through 16" of travel with no bind with proper components.

The blanketing that the long arm flexes harder than the mid arm is much too vague as there are dozens of individual components that attribute to capability of ones suspension.

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JKs come from the factory with mid arms. The money spent on long arms vs the gain in specific performance attributed to a longer control arm is not worth it. The same principles from a TJ don't apply to a JK
I thought the same until I drove a long arm JK. I immediately did an upgrade and would never go back. Much more stable on & off road. YMMV, of course, but you can't make a blanket statement that long arms aren't necessary.

OP, from the photo that looks like the early version of the RE 4.5" long arm kit. They had many issues with bushing life on those. I'd pass.
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Dude you have no idea what you're talking about

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I thought the same until I drove a long arm JK. I immediately did an upgrade and would never go back. Much more stable on & off road. YMMV, of course, but you can't make a blanket statement that long arms aren't necessary.

OP, from the photo that looks like the early version of the RE 4.5" long arm kit. They had many issues with bushing life on those. I'd pass.
exactly the same thing i just said, you're blanketing a long arm without understanding what and why the long arm is doing for you. i really dislike AEV's suspensions, but id be wiling to bet that an AEV dual sport 3.5 will out handle all of the long arm suspension KIT's available

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