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Unread 04-22-2014, 08:42 AM   #1
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Ride like a Cadillac - Metalcloak? Currie?

My old man's got a 4 door 2010 JK Sport.
2 years ago, against my recommendation, he went with a 2.5" Teraflex budget boost type lift, so he could clear some slightly larger than stock Duratracs.
(Stupid Teraflex uses all SAE hardware, when Jeep finally settled on using all metric, but I digress).

It's not horrible, but it doesn't ride great, it's got 40,000 miles on it now, and he's ready to listen to me about getting some springs under it that will ride a little softer. He doesn't want to go higher, but if it ends up an inch over it's no big deal.

I'm thinking the MetalCloak 3.5" for the 2 door will have a nice soft rate, and will sit pretty close to the 2.5" budget boost. Anyone have a measurement of the length of the coils with the weight of the Jeep on them?

Anyone have any other coil recommendations for an old man friendly ride setup somewhere around 3" of lift?

I like the Bilstein 5100 ride on my TJ, but was thinking either them, the Rancho 9000 adjustable, or a set of Foxes (monotube). Any comments there would be appreciated, while I'm familiar with the JK, I'm not up to speed on what works well aftermarket for them.

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Unread 04-22-2014, 08:58 AM   #2
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Metalcloak and currie are two quality kits that usually net MORE then the advertised height, especially on a two door. They are usually taking into account aftermarket body armour/bumpers/winch etc to help lower it back down to advertised height. You may get more lift then your looking for. Top of the line kits tho.
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Unread 04-22-2014, 09:08 AM   #3
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the spring lifts tend to run higher than spec, 2d more so. so say you get a 3.5 that is rear to make it more level they add 1" to the front. so front is more like 4.5ish. now you are needing driveshafts, especially on a 2d rear. that means you need adjustable arms. to be able to set pinion. my franken lift with Ave springs( a mix of the rest) is a 3.5 that after almost 3 years is still at 4.25 front and 4.5 rear. no hard top or added rear weight.

The latest 3+ lifts the word out is metal cloaks game changer lift. If I had to start over it would be with them. People say the ride is great. they have the longest travel springs i have seen. extend length. kits starts at 2k. you still need drive shafts. if you go with the full boat with sixpacks shocks you will have the longest travel of ANY lift out there. for a spring lift with stock locational shocks. but that puts the kit at 4k. very nice setup.
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Yeah, I know they net more in the front than the rear, that's why I'm thinking 2 door springs on a 4 door. He's got a stock bumper, no winch, so it's going to err on the high side. We want to stay out of the SYE/DC shaft/adj arms territory. I wouldn't do that game changer, cause I'm not sold on the 6 pack, but their progressive spring is certainly interesting.

Sounds like I should almost go with the 2.5" 2 door fronts, if you guys are saying the fronts typically run 1" higher than advertised.

Is anyone running the 2 door lift on an OEM bumper 4 door? Or is the 2 door/4 door thing really more difference on the rear end springs?
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Unread 04-22-2014, 10:43 AM   #5
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You may want to look into Synergy's Progressive coils. They are truly progressive and have 1", 2", and 3" 4 door lift coils. Their 1" and 2" font coils have about the same free length as Metalcloaks 2.5" 2 door font coils. If your looking for a soft ride, you don't want to start with a short lift coil.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16405.html

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16404.html


Use 2" coils front and rear if you want to keep the factory rake.

If you want it leveled, you can use the 1" rear and 2" front... Or 2" rear and 3" front if you want it a little higher.
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Keep in mind Synergy's Progressive springs are designed to give the advertised amount of lift with use of aftermarket rear bumpers & tire carriers.



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You may want to look into Synergy's Progressive coils. They are truly progressive and have 1", 2", and 3" 4 door lift coils.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16405.html

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16404.html


Use 2" coils front and rear if you want to keep the factory rake.

If you want it leveled, you can use the 1" rear and 2" front.
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Unread 04-22-2014, 11:03 AM   #7
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You could also consider 3" EVO Plush Ride coils if your looking to go on the high side of 2.5" of lift.

http://www.offroadevolution.com/stor...EVO-PLUSHCOILS
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Unread 04-22-2014, 11:05 AM   #8
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Keep in mind Synergy's Progressive springs are designed to give the advertised amount of lift with use of aftermarket rear bumpers & tire carriers.

But they do not have the additional 1" built in to level the Jeep front to back like most.
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Yeah, I know they net more in the front than the rear, that's why I'm thinking 2 door springs on a 4 door. He's got a stock bumper, no winch, so it's going to err on the high side. We want to stay out of the SYE/DC shaft/adj arms territory. I wouldn't do that game changer, cause I'm not sold on the 6 pack, but their progressive spring is certainly interesting.

Sounds like I should almost go with the 2.5" 2 door fronts, if you guys are saying the fronts typically run 1" higher than advertised.

Is anyone running the 2 door lift on an OEM bumper 4 door? Or is the 2 door/4 door thing really more difference on the rear end springs?
we are talking for a JK? if so the slip in the drive shaft stock the yoke is fixed all JK's.
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You may want to look into Synergy's Progressive coils. They are truly progressive and have 1", 2", and 3" 4 door lift coils. Their 1" and 2" font coils have about the same free length as Metalcloaks 2.5" 2 door font coils. If your looking for a soft ride, you don't want to start with a short lift coil.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16405.html

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-16404.html


Use 2" coils front and rear if you want to keep the factory rake.

If you want it leveled, you can use the 1" rear and 2" front... Or 2" rear and 3" front if you want it a little higher.
Side note the 1" and 2" rear coils are linear.
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I'm running a full Game Changer 2.5" on a 2-door. The coils are designed to net 2.5" on a fully built JK (bumpers, skids, armor, jack, big spare tire, etc). I have 37s on beadlocks (heavy spare), steel bumpers and skids, steel fenders and rear armor, steel rock sliders, etc. I'm at 2.5" in the front and 2.8" in the rear (with the rear seat still in). You'd likely net around 3" to 3.25".

It took a little tuning, but I can now say that the ride quality is very good (this is essentially my fourth lift kit on my JK and the first time I've been happy). I'll probably send the 6Paks in next winter to adjust the valving just a little. 6Paks are only worth it if you run high clearance fenders (flat fenders don't count) and if you don't mind cutting sheet metal. If you run 37s with them, a lot of metal needs to go on the rear wheel well. I love cutting metal off though!

The lower level kits are just as great and more bolt-on friendly. Last comment is that the customer service is off the chart.
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Unread 04-22-2014, 01:33 PM   #12
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You should be able to tune the shocks and adjust for whatever ride height you need.
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Unread 04-22-2014, 01:49 PM   #13
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Thanks for the information guys. He's never going to go crazy with this, it'll never have a winch bumper, and I doubt I could convince him a coilover crossmember is the way to go (even if it is). Plus, if I'm putting coilvers on a Wrangler, it's mine not his...

So the 2, 2.5, 3" kits are more his interest here. But just because he's not going huge, I still think we can get a much nicer ride.

edit. OME is on the list too.
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I'd just leave the lift on there and add a set of RS9000XL adj shocks--

He can set the ride as stiff/soft as he wants and costs are about $300 bucks (sale)-

Good luck

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Agreed with jimbo. No lift will make it ride better than stock., your changing geometry to gain clearance. Different shocks on stock height will ride best.
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