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Unread 10-31-2013, 11:35 AM   #31
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I wouldn't consider running without a 3rd light. We need every advantage we can get to prevent some idiot from slam into us.

Mine is dual purpose. It also makes it harder for someone to steal my tire...

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Unread 10-31-2013, 12:04 PM   #32
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Not looking for an argument - not saying do not remove it - personally I could care less - all that having been said - and no I am not a lawyer and no I cannot cite the Federal Highway Safety regulation - but lets be honest here - Jeep or anyone else would not spend the cash to install them if they were not required to.

I only know anything about this because I was recently informed by an upfitter outfit that does the police vehicles they had to change the way they installed those flash back devices that alternately flash the back up lights and the brake lights to not include the third brake light as the law that requires the third brake light also says that it can ONLY be illuminated when the brakes are applied.

So if God forbid you were ever in a rear end accident where you were struck in the rear - the people who struck you could possibly argue that it was your fault because you lacked the required third brake light.

I am not saying don't remove it - just sharing so you are fully informed and make a decision knowing all the facts - they are apparently required by the some regulation in the Federal Highway Safety Act.
I can't find it at the moment (my bookmarks desperately need to be organized), but safety equipment required by FMVSS 108 isn't supposed to be removed. Several state laws only require two tail lamps to be functioning, but that's not quite the same thing as having one removed. The CHMSL has been required on cars since 1983 I think, and around 91 or 93 for light trucks/SUVs.
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Unread 10-31-2013, 02:49 PM   #33
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I wouldn't consider running without a 3rd light. We need every advantage we can get to prevent some idiot from slam into us.

Mine is dual purpose. It also makes it harder for someone to steal my tire...
That's a pretty cool set up too.

Is that a plug and play or did you build it?
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Unread 10-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #34
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I can't find it at the moment (my bookmarks desperately need to be organized), but safety equipment required by FMVSS 108 isn't supposed to be removed. Several state laws only require two tail lamps to be functioning, but that's not quite the same thing as having one removed. The CHMSL has been required on cars since 1983 I think, and around 91 or 93 for light trucks/SUVs.
I think Jeep started in '93 CHMSL. My '92 didn't have one.
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Unread 10-31-2013, 03:18 PM   #35
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After this -- I installed a "turd" light --



I may even add a fourth to the YJ --
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Unread 10-31-2013, 03:35 PM   #36
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After this -- I installed a "turd" light --



I may even add a fourth to the YJ --
OUCH !
Hope you did not get hurt !
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Unread 10-31-2013, 04:43 PM   #37
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Nope -- in fact I improved ---
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Unread 10-31-2013, 04:59 PM   #38
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I can't find it at the moment (my bookmarks desperately need to be organized), but safety equipment required by FMVSS 108 isn't supposed to be removed. Several state laws only require two tail lamps to be functioning, but that's not quite the same thing as having one removed. The CHMSL has been required on cars since 1983 I think, and around 91 or 93 for light trucks/SUVs.
Required on cars since 86, have no clue about trucks. I pulled mine off 2 years ago, have had no issues
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Unread 11-01-2013, 08:22 AM   #39
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I added one when I changed to ACE bumper tire carrier:
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Unread 11-01-2013, 11:50 AM   #40
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I just had a thought --- christmas bulbs in the lug nut holes ----
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Unread 11-02-2013, 06:39 AM   #41
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I added one when I changed to ACE bumper tire carrier:
I like that. Hard to miss.

Are those Mopar (winter) steel wheels?
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Unread 11-02-2013, 08:04 AM   #42
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That's a pretty cool set up too.

Is that a plug and play or did you build it?
It's a Teraflex hinge/tire carrier and Warrior 3rd tail light ( slight modification )

Roto Pax is on a Teraflex hijack mount. No modification needed.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 04:15 PM   #43
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I like that. Hard to miss. Are those Mopar (winter) steel wheels?
No. MB72 from discount tire. Not steel

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Unread 02-02-2014, 05:46 PM   #44
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My third brake light
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