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Unread 06-01-2010, 07:51 PM   #1
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Rear spring unseated

Heard a funny noise a couple of times today in the rear left side of my Jeep. Was pretty sure it had something to do with the suspension. After lying under the Jeep for a while it finally showed itself. The top of the rear left spring was off its seat. Since I have yet had it off road, I was thinking that maybe that happened while my gears were getting installed. Is that possible? Any comments?


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Unread 06-01-2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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Maybe they lifted your Jeep by the frame rails and at full droop they unseated. I have a Teraflex lift and there is a guide on the top spacer about Three inches long to recenter the spring if this happens, also has lower spring retainers. I'd look into if I were you, you don't want to unseat them offroad.

Did you're gearing get any better? I got my first drive in with the5:13's today, they seem better. I still have to reset my Hypertech Max Energy though.
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Maybe they lifted your Jeep by the frame rails and at full droop they unseated. I have a Teraflex lift and there is a guide on the top spacer about Three inches long to recenter the spring if this happens, also has lower spring retainers. I'd look into if I were you, you don't want to unseat them offroad.

Did you're gearing get any better? I got my first drive in with the5:13's today, they seem better. I still have to reset my Hypertech Max Energy though.
Yup, thatís how they did it. Iíll definitely look into spring retainers. Iíll checkout the TeraFlex top spacer that you have and see if it will work with my set-up. Thanks.

The 5.13ís are kinda ok but on the freeway the Jeep still has a problem with any sort of wind or incline. Although a lot of people here are happy and satisfied with their results with similar set-ups as mine, I am not. How bout you?
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Unread 06-01-2010, 08:33 PM   #4
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AEV sells a lift without spring retainers?
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Unread 06-01-2010, 08:50 PM   #5
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Thatís the way mine came. Do all the others come with retainers?
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Yup, thatís how they did it. Iíll definitely look into spring retainers. Iíll checkout the TeraFlex top spacer that you have and see if it will work with my set-up. Thanks.

The 5.13ís are kinda ok but on the freeway the Jeep still has a problem with any sort of wind or incline. Although a lot of people here are happy and satisfied with their results with similar set-ups as mine, I am not. How bout you?
I cant wait for these folks to chime in on this one!! LOL
Thats like a knife through the heart to some on here, LOL
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Unread 06-01-2010, 09:19 PM   #7
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My teraflex came with spring retainers. I thought AEV was top of the line. I would have thought they nailed that detail.
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no one has anything to say about the 513s? LOL
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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:07 PM   #9
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no one has anything to say about the 513s? LOL
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If the expectations of the OP were not met, no form of rhetoric (positive or negative) is going to help him!
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Yup, thatís how they did it. Iíll definitely look into spring retainers. Iíll checkout the TeraFlex top spacer that you have and see if it will work with my set-up. Thanks.

The 5.13ís are kinda ok but on the freeway the Jeep still has a problem with any sort of wind or incline. Although a lot of people here are happy and satisfied with their results with similar set-ups as mine, I am not. How bout you?
Sounds like their is an Engine swap in your future!
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first regarding spring retainers. My lift (RC) does not have any spring retainers. I've had mine flex'd out many times, and never unseated the spring. The shocks should limit the droop to the point where the spring does not unseat.

2nd regarding the 5.13's- I have not run into a hard enough headwind to cause any issues. I have run into hills that were an issue. What I have come to the realization of is if I'm running highway and see a long hill (that I know will cause an issue), I will watch my speed as I hit the hill. The instant I lose 2mph, I flick the O/D off. I then have no problem getting back to the set speed and maintaining it. It is important to be able to realize when a hill is going to be an issue, and turn the O/D off. If you're running cruise control and you wait for the computer to downshift, it will happen too late. It will allow the speed to drop 5mph before it will do anything. By that point you've lost too much momentum and too many RPM's, and are now in a losing battle. A lot of times you won't be capable of getting back to speed until you top the hill.
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I would think that the more droop you have the better the performance off-road. In most incidences the shock does limit the droop so as to keep your spring in place. Ideally itís not the best option, limiting straps are. Anyhow, obviously I have longer travel shocks than you. What Iím optioning out to do is install TeraFlex 1/2" Rear Guide & Spacer. Alaska-HWY JK uses and suggested them and it seems to be a good choice. Theyíre on order as of today. Thanks Alaska-HWY JK.


Iím quite familiar with OD button. I used it a lot before the lift and of course even more with the larger tires. You donít say at what speed youíre trying to retain as you climb those hills. If youíre trying to go 80mph with 5.13ís then your engine will be screaming around 4,000 rpmís plus. Of course I could also literally floor the skinny pedal but not such a great idea. Your correct in saying that waiting to long to keep your speed up as you approach a hill will result in disappointment. Damm engine and Trans.
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Sounds like their is an Engine swap in your future!
God, I wish I had the money. If I did I would not hesitate.
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FYI - pic of TeraFlex rear top spacer (note: I inserter my stock (dirty) spacer into the TeraFlex spacer):
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no one has anything to say about the 513s? LOL
Will 5.13 gears Rub or do I need a lift

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